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Word is Jerry Manuel is saying “no” to John Maine and won’t let him pitch again this season. Manuel said his conscience won’t let him use Maine, who will undergo shoulder surgery on his right shoulder.
The doctors said Maine can’t reinjure himself, but they really don’t know. Should Maine try to overcompensate with his delivery, it could place stress somewhere else. That’s what the doctors ARE NOT taking into consideration.
That Manuel won’t risk Maine’s health with the season being on the line, and consequently possibly his job, shows his integrity. He’s doing the right thing.
Martinez: Pitching for October.
Pedro Martinez is starting what could be his last game for the Mets tonight if they don’t get into the playoffs.
Should they somehow squeeze their way in, I can still see Manuel giving Martinez the ball by citing his experience.
That said, I don’t have faith that experience will last long then, or tonight. Not with these numbers: In his last three starts, Martinez has worked 16 innings and given up 14 earned runs on 24 hits and eight walks.
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This post was written by NYMR Archive on September 25, 2008
Why did the Mets even bother to mess around with Maine? Why didn’t Jerry make this known to management sooner if he had no intention of using John? However,good for Jerry though, protecting his players.
Patrick: You like to see a manager protect his players. All during the Church incident Willie kept saying he’d leave it up to the player to tell him how he felt. There were too many questions he couldn’t answer.-JD
Let’s take a poll: How many innings will Pedro last tonight?
I say 2.1.
Gil: I would say that would be a very bad sign. And, the Cubs can rake.-JD
Nice to see the Cubs playing their B lineup. How insulting.
I’ve been thinking about other blogs after the Mets are done. The Giants, “24” and a political blog. Any other topics would interest you?-JD
My predicted Pedro line:
2.1 IP, 7H, 6R 5ER, 3BB, 3K.
Gil: Basically, they are saying they don’t need their “A” team to beat Pedro.-JD
Hello All. I dont have much yet. Just saying hello.
‘zactly.
Greetings David. Welcome to the chat room. I hope you brought some beer and munchies.-JD
Rough spot for Pedro if by the grace of god he pitches well. It will be because of a crappy cubs lineup if he gets shelled it will put yet another nail in a Hall Of Fame coffin….At this point I’ll just as well take the former.
an entire blog on 24? you must be a really big fan of Jack Bauer.
Are we not optimistic about Mr. Martinez tonight?-JD
Let’s go Pedro, please just one good start, your last start in a mets uni, please make us remember you on a non-glavine note!
alex: Wouldn’t be great … talking right after the episode?-JD
You have to be kidding me.
Let the onslaught begin…
JD: The short Answer is NO>
if pedro gets out of the 1st inning only having given up 1 run, should we be happy/optimistic?
JD,
The other night you condemned Manny Ramirez for being selfish, lazy, and spoiled, though you might not haved used those words exactly.
Now I’m not suggesting that the Mets should have, or should in the future, pay through the nose in money and/or prospects for him or a guy like him, but just so there’s no doubt about what the Mets need: Manny gets that run in from third, everytime out of 10.
Come on, Pedro. They sent a bunch of kids out there. this plays to your only strength remaining: experience.
hey, i’m all for a 24 blog…but the only problem for me is that i’m in Los Angeles and wouldn’t be able to contribute to the discussion till 3 hours after you watch it.
JM: Did you see the at-bat (in the middle of his tantrm) against the Yankees this year… bottom of the 9th, against Mariano, Manny TOOK 3 pitches, all strikes, never moved the bat from his shoulder?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…
Ben from Flushing May 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
How come I feel like the words “first big-league home run” and “first big league win” are associated more with Mets’ opponents than anyone else in baseball?
Pedro is a joke, plain and simple. PEDRO GLAVINE, not getting out of the first.
JD - A political blog?
Out of respect for the team, Pedro should have removed himself from the rotation.
GET HIM OUT OF THE GAME! PUT IN KNIGHT IF NIESE IS GOING SATURDAY!!!
oh well, there goes that 1 run optimism.
About to be 5-0, really quickly.
With my Pedro prediction for tonight’s game, I’m exploring the idea of legally changing my name to Nostradamus.
alex: Just curious, but how did you get around in LA after the nuclear bomb went off? Jack had no problems. Even on the best days LA is impossible to drive around.-JD
Anyone out there know how to do a rain dance?
Bob,
Didn’t see it, but pointing out one or multiple places where a ballplayer fails is not the point, as clearly its an exaggeration to say anyone can always come through. But he’s always been a clutch RBI man, and that is missing around Shea these days.
Annie: Sure, why not?-JD
Who’s warming up for the mets?
2 runs, I’ll take it.
How about a blog on pizzerias?
Anyhow I wont get upset about it tonight. As I made it quite clear last night that i thought tonight and sat are lost causes. The mets had to have last night.
JM: the point wasn’t that Manny failed, it was Manny CHOSE to fail, by intentionally not swinging because he was mad at the Sox front office. Are you telling me D Wright intentionally struck out because he chased ball four twice? I’d hope not, he was trying his ass off, just tried too hard, the complete OPPOSITE of Manny.
I’m part of a “Battlestar Galactica” blog.
2-time world champion manny w/o the playoff clinching dodgers:
50 games: .398avd 17hr 53rbi
he is also in the top 5 all-time in playoff: runs, hits, hr (1st), rbi (2nd), extra base hit, times on base
yes, he’s flaky too
yeah, driving in los angeles is never fun. thankfully, i’m usually able to avoid the worst times to drive on the worst roads…and like jack bauer, i try to stay off the highways.
Again, Bob, you miss the point. He is worth the BS!
Tiffany: Sweet idea. I’m serious about doing some things. The worst thing about pizza is it isn’t a good food when you’re writing.-JD
Sacrifice fly: When a batter hit a fly ball, the runner on third is allowed to advance and score after the ball is caught. This is a legal play.-JD
Best pizza in NYC:
1. Di Fara
2. Grimaldi
3. Totonno’s (Brooklyn shop)
4. John’s
5. Lombardi’s/Patsi’s
6. Una Pizza Napoletana (over-priced though)
darling just mentioned it, right before i got the chance…but harden doesn’t look right.
JM: I agree 100% just making a point that if he decides to intentionally not try he’ll do it and I haven’t seen any Mets do that yet, except POSSIBLY Castillo.
OK, all together now, let’s ask:
WHY COULDN’T WRIGHT HAVE DONE THAT LAST NIGHT?!
There … like that. See, it does happen.-JD
About 22 hours too late.
C’mon Lou, take out Harden, he’s hurt!!
22 hours late, but I’ll take it.
Frozen Rope: I’m cutting and pasting that list. Thanks. Tiffany, did you get that?-JD
alex: And, do you get 24/7 cell service in a tunnel, too?-JD
Pedro has got to get it together. And the bats are gonna have to scorch tonight.
Bob: The thing about Manny is I can see him intentionally dogging it at times. Didn’t he quit on his Red Sox teammates this year?-JD
Nice play, golden boy.
JD: See my posts 24 + 41
Bob: Thanks. Great posts. Says all you need to know about Ramirez.-JD
Is anyone else worried that because Lou ran this lineup out against us he’ll feel obligated to run out the same or something close to this for all 3 games against the Brew? I mean what he did wasn’t so bad, he started almost all his regulars the first three games.
Ok we all know how this story will go Pedro gave his typical 2 in the 1st. Now he will go 3 maybe 4 scores and in either the 5th or 6th give up 2-3 more.
Speaking of Manny and other supposed selfish players, anyone read the piece on msnbc.com today about how hated Ichiro is in the Mariners’ clubhouse and how some threatened to beat him down?
I think with Harden on the mound Lou feels he can win with this lineup and im not kidding.
lol @ beat him down… you got a link Gil?
Bob: Not really. I don’t think it matters who starts for the Cubs, because I believe the Brewers will be pumped if they have a chance at the playoffs.-JD
WHY COULDN’T CHURCH HAVE DONE THAT LAST NIGHT?
If the mets don’t win this game, they don’t deserve to make the playoffs, Wow, I could play a better 1B or LF than these cubbies.
Gil: I didn’t see that, either. Link it here if you can find it.-JD
Bob, the Mets already don’t deserve to make the playoffs.
http://ussmariner.com/2008/09/25/teammates-hate-ichiro-we-hate-teammates/
Church you’re a fool. A game of this magnitude, what is the likelihood that they would call it after 5 in a rain delay? You would think they would delay it as long as possible to get it in, maybe I’m just thinking optimistic.
We’re going to get rain in this game tonight.-JD
Here’s the link to that Ichiro story:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26888002/
JD: but what are the chances that they would call it in a rain delay?
WOWWWWW COULD NAILS BE SOBER FOR THIS INTERVIEW?!??!?!?!
Nails is hammered! I feel kind of bad for him.
i’m back and the answer is no, i do not get cell service in tunnels 24/7
I wish Nails would go off on Pedro in his drunken rambling.
dykstra’s interview will probably be the most interesting thing about tonight’s game. maybe, if we’re lucky, he’ll try and kiss burkhardt.
My prediction for Pedro is coming true.
Why is pedro even still pitching. What is Jerry thinking? Pull his old ass.
If you haven’t ever heard a Dykstra interview, that’s how he *always* sounds.
wonder how long the leash will be before manuel has to seriously consider pulling pedro? with the threat of rain, and the mets offense, they can’t afford to fall too far behind.
That AB tells the entire story of Pedro. If you feel you have to nibble against Mike Fontenot what are you made of.
You know what’s gonna happen with the rain, right?
It’s gonna start pouring the moment the game becomes official and with us losing big-time.
The Brewers have Gallardo going tonight. Guys 22 years old and hasn’t pitched in 5 months. Said he was shocked to be pitching tonight because he hasn’t even taking any swings or tested his knee yet.
Guess it’s not just the Mets who are wacky when it comes to the health of their players.
Ben: I’ve seen plenty of dykstra interviews on CNBC where his eyes weren’t half shut and we was not slurring his words.
It’s too bad that Pedro’s hammy didn’t keep him out for the season, then Minaya may have decided to actually make a move for a starting pitcher instead of this notion that Pedro would come back in some magical form.
OK, so my prediction didn’t come true on Pedro. He has lasted 2.2 innings.
With Fukudome showing that he can’t hit a changeup, why is Pedro now throwing him fastballs?
I think we’d all sign off for 4ER 5IP at this point.
Bob: Might be able to live with it. But dont think you can win with it.
David: Might have a chance with an average bullpen, with our bullpen furrrget about-it!
You’re also facing a damn good pitcher in Harden. Dont know where the 5-6 runs will come from.
David: They aren’t coming from the Mets’ bats.-JD
Im done guys I cannot watch anymore. Rather spend time with the family. Ill check back in later.
Why does the SNY seem to have a love fest for those three goons on their cell phones?
JD -
as far as expanding the blog, i think the best way for you to do it would be an anything and everything blog — kinda like Slate or Huffington Post.
then you could have posts and threads on whatever topic sparked your interest.
Way to get over to cover the bag, Pedro.
Expanding the blog? Will the domain name change or will there be two blogs? I can’t see people typing in nymetsreport.com when they’re in search of pizza restaurants or movie reviews.
alex: Thanks. I’ll drop you an email to pick your brain. But, I will keep this all Mets.-JD
Bob: This will be all Mets. Just talking about adding something down the road.-JD
Tonight, of course, once the rain comes, we could talk about anything and everything.-JD
sounds good.