With Milwaukee winning last night in the ninth to keep the pressure on, the Mets are faced with another must-win game tonight. Oliver Perez, who has pitched well in big games before for the Mets, will start against a team he hasn’t faced in over three years.
The NL East is still within their grasp, and far preferable to the wild-card. Remember, if it comes down to just Mets and Phillies for the division, the Mets win based on head-to-head. However, for that scenario to apply, the Brewers must fall completely out of wild-card contention.
Do you remember how horrible David Wright looked last week in Washington? He’s turned it around. His two-run hit last night might be one of the most important of the season.
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Jerry Manuel said Johan Santana wouldn’t start Saturday on short rest, but instead will slip a three-sided coin an choose among Nelson Figueroa, Brandon Knight or Jonathan Niese. Who is your choice?-JD
Pitch it like a spring training game, two innings a piece…
You know that spring training idea might just be crazy enough to work. Keep the guys off balance by giving them 3 different looks. Let Knight throw gas like he did early on in his last start between Niese and Figueroa’s junk stuff. Hmmm definitely not a bad idea.
Niese…but on a short leash.
They are liable to use seven or eight pitchers anyway, so they might as well to it by design.-JD
I have no take on Perez tonight. I can see two runs in eight innings. I can also see eight runs in two innings.-JD
Hey, Everybody, JD!
JD, was something wrong with the blog last weekend? I couldn’t access it last Sunday.
Hi Gil: Yes. The server was down for a good part of the weekend. Too bad. I imagine we would have had some interesting comments about the Atlanta series.-JD
Mets got lucky there. If the runner wasn’t going, Reyes wouldn’t have been moving to the bag and the Cubs would have had runners on the corners with no outs.-JD
John, I’ve been thinking. I think we should suspend all debates until the federal bailout goes through.
Ollies looking tough tonight. He threw alot of pitches in the first. Hope he can go 7 or 8 tonight.
Well we saw Johan last night take down the Cubs and Cousy looks like tonight Oliver will have to take down the cubs + Wolf. Awful inning behind the plate for the blue apparently some of randy’s old friends in philly reached out to Mr. Wolf.
Zambrano’s got nasty stuff so far.
Gil: You promised. … But, that was a good one.-JD
Braves take the early lead.-JD
Not feeling it hoping Brewers lose
Two innings, 41 pitches for Perez. Nice pace.-JD
Well 41 pitches through two innings and Zambrano looking tough. Wow can you say uphill.
As Jerry said as long as they get in.
Zambrano looks really good
Nothing about this so far looks good. The only batter whos worked Zambrano at all was Murphy. No big surprise. Essentially through two innings the mets have not only failed to put up runs they havent even put a dent in the pitch count.
Zambrano looks like he’s got perfect game stuff tonight.
I think ollie lost to Zambrano 1-0 once
Every game has a moment of decision for a pitcher. This is it for Perez. He can lose the game right here.-JD
This Cubs lineup reminds me of the ‘02 Angels — no soft touches and the hitters all were great at getting on base via hits or walks.
Walking the highwire with Ollie P.
Three walks already for Perez. It’s going to be a long night.-JD
You know i must take this opportunity to thank ESPN for the pure class they are showing tonight. In what will be the last nationally televised game in the history of Shea stadium. They put a cub legened in the booth whos referred to the Cubs as “Us” and “We” on at least threee occasions. On top of that they have cub fan #1 bill murray join the booth to essentially act like cheerleaders in the booth. Kudos ESPN that’s class if I’ve ever seen it.
Good approach by Argenis. Hit the ball where it’s pitched. Of course, a bad bunt takes that all away.
Come on David!
David: I’m not a fan of any team’s celebrity in the booth. Who cares?-JD
Braves lead over Phils trimmed to 3-2. How about 9 hits off Hammels in 3 innings for Atlanta? Phillies may be most vulnerable in their starting pitching.
Great at-bat by Wright. He really worked that. He has 123 RBI, one shy of the club record set by Mike Piazza.-JD
Who was the Cubs legend: Ernie Banks? Ron Santo? Jimmy Qualls?
Celebrities should be like Woody Allen: just sit in their seats and root. Dick Young said that Susan Heyward went to Ebbets Field wearing a bandana to disguise herself. She wanted to see a game, not be seen
A Walk with RISP! Move over, 27 Yankees!
well, that was simply awesome
Hell yea, I really believe Reyes got into Zambrano’s head
DELGADO RULES!!!!!
Zambrano beat himself that inning. He let the umpire get to him. Lost his composure. It was a “Bad Ollie,” kind of inning.-JD
Well its what i said prior to the game work the count and get in big Z’s head. Murphy had the big AB in my mind and setting up the blast. It’s imperative Ollie puts up some zeroes now.
Zambrano may be a great pitcher, but he’s really a huge huge baby. He is such a hot head and gets into these temper tantrums all the time.
I love to be wrong
I cant believe how far down the line Reyes was. Between the Ump and Reyes, Zambrano was freaked out.
they win tonight and it will be about Gado’s slam (rightfully so) but D-Rex and D-Wright had critical at bats
Ray,
I was at the Milledge high 5 game he did the same thing could have stole home totally freaked Benny out…
Well in MIL CC gets out of a bases loaded 1 out jam. Silver lining if you want one is 28 pitches through 1. Let’s remember he’s on 3 days rest.
David: He’ll go on three days rest again this weekend.-JD
Ed, The only thing ive seen like it is old Jackie Robinson video. Nice job of Ollie to put a zero up there after the big inning.
I like what the Mets have done recently with the numbers countdown. Ed Charles tonight. But, I would have liked to have seen more guys throughout the season. That’s just me, though.-JD
they’ll burn him out - using him like a rental
who’s pulling one Seaver
Yeah JD, would have loved to see Mota come back and pull down the 59
ED: Well, that’s what he is, isn’t he? Nobody expects Milwaukee to sign him. Doing this is only a win-win situation for CC as he showcases himself for the FA market.-JD
not if he hurts himself
Mackey: Not as much as I would have liked Steve Trachsel to pull down his number.-JD
Mentioning Mota and Trachsel reminds me of the other night when we were talking at the end of the game about the most unpopular Mets. Of course, we’ll add Heilman from this year. Who else is on the most despised list?-JD
John, Sisk was the first. Boonilla was well hated his second time around
Ray: Don’t forget Mo Vaughn.-JD
Five walks.-JD
Despised Mets:
Mel Rojas
Armando Benitez
George Foster
Kevin McReynolds
Kenny Rogers
Get him out of there.
Gil: Good list. Add Roberto Alomar.-JD
i cant believe he just crushed all that good feeling
Wow talk about taking out the garbage…
Hows the line go? million dollar arm and a five cent head?
All that momentum thanks to walks… I’d rather see hits
please pitch well sanchez
I’d rather have seen Lee and Ramirez go back to back jack.
At best we’re looking at a 5-5 game going into the bot 5th.
Roger Cedeno was another one who shouldnt have come back. Vince Coleman wasnt beloved, especially after the firecracker incident.
sigh
This just gets better and better by the batter.
I might have changed my mind on Ollie… You get a four run lead in a game your team desperately needs you cant let this happen on walks
Is there anyone at all in the Mets bullpen who doesn’t completely suck?
God on a night when the braves have jumped out 9-3 we have to watch this crap…
If the Mets lose this game and don’t get into the playoffs, this could be Perez’s last start for them. It was a performance most of us will remember of him.-JD
And Jim Wolf, the home plate ump, is an @$$hole. He keeps changing his strike zone.
I try to be as positive as i can but I have no confidence our metsies can not only comeback but hold off the cubs tonight. I’ll gladly eat crow later on.
Gil: No.-JD
That was awful… where is the urgency by the pitching staff they nibbled the entire time afraid to throw strikes
Now you’re asking the mets to get back at Zambrano. You rarely get to an ace multiple times. The mets probably had their one and only shot when they capitalized and got 4.
I know they’ve shown recsilency but after you get a grand slam off Zambrano to get all those good feeling and have the pitching staff give it all away could be crushing….
is willie back why is Marlon Anderson in the batters box
David: Mets have only two hits tonight. What the Mets have tonight is a gift from the Zambrano meltdown.-JD
Well give Marlon credit that was a smart AB not chasing.
David: The hitters should be doing that all the time.-JD
It’s clear to me now that when Warthen said three months ago “Perez is fixed”, he was simply allowing Perez to hear in the media that his coaches had confidence in him. He’s not coming back next year. I think the mets would be better off using his departure as a chance to upgrade his rotation spot. Whither AJ Burnett?
JD: True it was a gift but much like the cubs you still have to take advantage and Delgaldo did just that.
Most despised? Richie Hebner was for the one season he was here and mailed it in. He didn’t
want to be traded to the Mets but some idiot named Torre insisted thinking he could change the gravedigger’s mind.
Gift that ollie gave back
Jay L: I’d trade Burnett for Perez. But, you still have to come up with another starter to replace Pedro Martinez.-JD
Folks, if we don’t get to the Cubs in the next inning or so, we’re toast.
I’m willing to let Niese and Parnell battle it out for the fifth spot, maybe alongside a cheapo veteran (something similar to Pedro, but cheaper). Please no Kyle Lohse - I consider him a one-year wonder.
Well if nothing else. They’ve gotten Zambrano out of there after 5.
Parnell is releiver material
David: Who has the bullpen edge: Mets or Cubs?-JD
Just because Keith Law says he’s a reliever doesn’t mean its definetly true
Before the mets do anything in Free Agency pitching wise. They need be darn sure what to expect from Maine. That should play large part in what claiber guy they go after.
JD: Is that a serious question !!!
Im looking for a silver lining.
David: Sometimes it’s hard to tell sarcasm writing in this format.-JD
Big inning for the mets will prob be the bot of the 6th. You’d got to figure if the Cubs are playing it striaght up they would set up Sma—whatever the hell his name is for 7th. Marmol for 8th. Wood for 9th. Funny anyone of the 3 would be the no doubt closer for the mets.
LOL you dont come back from deflaters like that, i’ll be very surprised if this even stays close
I think Smith needs to grow out of his “i can only get righties out” and figure out a way to give us two effective innings. Manuel cant mix and match for 12 outs and not get burned.
who else thought that was gone or over his head?
Jay: Over his head for sure.
David: You speak the truth about those Cubs relievers.
David: Are you talking about Jeff Samardzija, the former Notre Dame receiver?-JD
A 5-5 game with our bullpen and the Buccos leading the Brew Crew 1-0 in the third. That’s as good as a feeling as lending a credit card to my ex-wife.
Wonder what the “rehire Minaya” press conference will be like if the team blows a playoff spot?
i know maine threw today….whens the earliest we could reasonably expect to see him (and yes, i know they will avoid it if they can, but lets say for argument sake its unavoidable…)
JD: That would be him….
Dan check that 2 walks lead to a brewer run.
How about this: Pedro Feliciano has tied the Mets club record for most appearances by a pitcher, with 83.
Anyone remember back to 1975, when the Dodgers’ Mike Marshall appeared in 116? And if I’m right, he appeared in all five World Series games that year.
MIL has bases loaded 1 out as well.
Dan: I can tell you what some of the questions would be.-JD
Jay: If they activated him today, then I would think we might see him tonight.-JD
and here we go again 2 out no one on walk.
Not with two outs.
Please, not a two-out, none on rally.
For the love of the gods!!!!
In fairness when the Wilpons hired him, they said they wanted to play meaningful games in September. The Mets have met that standard.
I expected Minaya would stay and it is defendable. But it seems strange they would leak this info to Buster Olney with a week left.
Rincon is the Mets’ third reliever. They’ll use seven tonight. I would bet on it.-JD
It’s actually surprising that with 9 hits and 6 walks i believe the Cubs dont have more runs.
Rincon is actually 4
I would’ve stuck with Smith.
i like rincon and not feliciano or suckenweis here. let’s see if im wrong….
Dan: They linked it to avoid all the “future of Minaya questions,” should they collapse and not make the playoffs. The leak instead of a press conference also eliminates the “Omar, what’s your role in the bullpen mess?” questions.-JD
even if they get out of this pickle, we still have to sit through heilman at some point, plus the other disasters in the pen
JD - Is there any shot a guy like Rincon makes the postseason roster? He’s been here three weeks and he’s their best lefty specialist.
I have to think either we’re looking at stokes for two innings or we’ll see Maine tonight. Id actually jump through my TV if we see Heilman unless we’re in extra innigs.
i’ll tell you what, even though he is also another met reliever who is probably strictly a specialist — i’ve been nicely surprised by what they’ve gotten out of rincon these last few weeks.
PIT walks in a run 2-1 MIL bases loaded. God bless the modern pitcher who cant grow a pair and challenge a batter.
We look silly rolling out multiple relievers every inning… manuel deserves a contract he’s managing his a** off with this group
Jay L.: I don’t know. I think whether that last pitching spot is a righty or lefty reliever will depend on the playoff opponent.-JD
Gotta make a move here. Gotta get some runs here.
Omar made a mess of this pen but he’s done more good then bad but he better come big on this pen in the off-season
PIT walks in a 2nd run in a row 3-1 MIL.
This is where Tatis’s injury REALLY hurts. You could’ve platooned him with Church, who’s really struggling.
It’s odd watching the scoreboard tonight. On one hand they can move within a half-game of first. On the other they can be tied in the wild card.-JD
the pirates are so bad
JD- they need this win Im confident the Brewers will fold against the Cubs but they cant have us by a game going in that would be too close
Soriano didn’t play that well. Lucky for the Mets. That should have been caught.-JD
Chruch has been rough especially against lefties lately or maybe it just seems that way i dont really have the numbers.
think they walk reyes?
ED: I don’t see the Brewers folding this weekend at all. Playing at home with the playoffs on the line, I think they’ll do well. Win at least two of three.-JD
scratch that, i got confused. wrong reyes
will CC go on 3 days rest again on sunday??
I agree with JD. You gotta figure Lou will rest certain guys as well. Especially big guys in the pen.
Jay: Yes
When you’re Argenis Reyes, you’re not going to get that call.-JD
All-Mets despised team:
1b- mo vaughn
2b-roberto alomar
ss-rey sanchez
3b-richie hebner
of-george foster
of-kevin mcreyonolds
of-roger cedeno
c-
sp-kenny rogers
sp-jose lima
sp-mickey lolich
sp-steve trachsel
sp-mike torrez
rp-Mel Rojas
rp-Gene Walter
rp-Guillermo Mota
rp-alejandro pena
cl-armando benitez
bench- mike bordick, david newhan
anyone think of any despised Mets catchers?
Gil: I knew you’d come up with it, but David Newhan? What did he do that was so bad? And, fill me in on Mickey Lolich.-JD
Oh boy here we go again.
jorge fabergas
game over boys and girls
Gil: I thought Paul Lo Duca wore out his welcome.-JD
Gil: And, who is your manager of this group?-JD
dallas green would top my list
I’ll tell you one thing the way Jerry uses the pen he’s exposes just how bad a job Omar did Willie hid it by using the same guys…. when nobody can get an out it shows…
brewers pitchers will be burnt
Lolich was an ineffective, fat over-the-hill bum who M. Donald Grant stupidly traded away Rusty Staub for, the season after becoming the first Met ever to drive in 100 runs or more.
Newhan did zilch last year in a bench role. Not one of Omar’s brightest signings.
Martinez? Really?
Not Heilman. Please not Heilman. I think they can pull it out still. But not if they use Heilman.
Really! Martinez!
that’s what you call pushing the right button
Give it to Sabathia on short rest 6inn 96 pitches 3-1 lead. It will be interesting to see if they bring him back for the 7th or hand it over to their pen.
I love it when a guy just shows up and contributes.
the bunt was the perfect call there
This is why Reyes needs to figure out how to bunt.
JD-Bud Harrelson or Joe Torre would be my manager. I still love LoDuca, steroid cheat he turned out to be.
Mets may have caught a break on Reyes being in the baseline and Cedeno’s brain freeze not getting to 1st base in time.
LET’S GO METS!
LET’S GO METS!
LET’S GO METS!
JM: I remember talking to Reyes about this several times. He could probably get close to 30 bunt hits a year with his speed. That’s a little more than one a week.-JD
C’mon, Murph!
You’re a better hitter than this!
Let’s GO!
Thats on jose for not taking off early in the count.
GUT PUNCH
as i said game over
I can’t believe our %$##$% luck!!!
I just don’t *&^%^&* believe it!!!!
crushing Dp
Damn… tough tough break.
He couldn’t have hit that any harder. Can’t fault Reyes. The only way he’s not doubled up is if he doesn’t lead off at all. I think Wright is going to plate this run.-JD
thats the game
I just dont get huge leg kick from the pitcher how can you not take off.
Great point, David.
JD: My only question to reyes is the lack of aggresiveness.
Where the preverbial fork
Disgraceful.
lee reminded me jerry doesnt have wright guard the line very often and he gets beat alot to his right
It was just a feeling on Wright.-JD
Looks like the brewers are taking care of business against the last place team.
No, we’re still in this.
what more can be said? there was nothing to be done there
That DP was a game winner
i think this makes it an even 30 blown
I agree it was bad luck there but sometimes you have to make your luck by being aggresive. Young pitcher on the mound with a huge leg kick young catcher behind the plate, one of the most prolific base stealers in baseball. How are you not taking off first or second pitch?
Pedro tomorrow- funny well this went bad fast
Heilman warming. I can hear the groaning on my laptop.-JD
Please no Aaron Heilman.
No.
Spare us the pain.
Dave- your right I was thinking the same thing steal to keep out of the DP
I’d really like some feedback from everyone else as to Reyes not running there. Maybe Im just clueless so i want some other opinions
We are going to win this game
This team has fight. I love it.
Torborg has to be the manager. I used to listen to him on the daily spot he had with Mike and the Mad Dog. Stupider than Art Howe which takes doing.
I’m trying to think if any 1960s Mets were despised. Maybe Kranepool. One sign in 1965 asked “Is Ed Kranepool over the hill?” He was 20 at the time. Became popular in the 70s as a pinch hitter. Duke Snider begged to be traded to the Mets in 1963 so he could play everyday and in 1964 begged to be traded to a winner for his final year.
Here we go again with the leadoff man on second.
Yes, Mackey Sasser!!
MAckey: From your mouth to god’s ears: Or your keyboard i dont know the translation…
WE
MUST
SCORE!
what are the chances they dont score here? 50-50?
David: Reyes can run whenever he wants unless Jerry puts up the stop sign.-JD
HOW THE HELL IS HE NOT SENT HOME. OH MY GOOD GOD.
Sounds like we need a new 3rd base coach and ASAP
WHY IN THE *&^% WAS DELGADO HELD AT THIRD?!!!
3rd base coach strikes again. Wow now your hoping for a deep fly ball to get delgaldo home. just wow.
he would have been out David
I have a very bad feeling about this.
One more note to Omar: new 3rd base coach.
anyone know who the free agent 3rd base coaches are this offseason?
how about sending beltran though?
David: No outs. If any doubt keep him at third. How many times have we seen a guy get nailed at the plate?-JD
Jay: I’d like to see what everyone else thinks about that Reed Johnson does not have a gun out there.
dave: Just add it to the list.-JD
Ok guys lets see how holding him works out.
now you have to send beltran to avoid the double play. dont you???
Delgaldo read that ball perfectly had a good jump. Johnson was playing deep. Especially with the bottom of the lineup coming up. Castro right here has DP written all over it.
WHY THE ^%$% IS BELTRAN NOT %$#$%$# STEALING SECOND BASE????!!!!!!
AND WHY CAN’T RYAN CHURCH HIT WATER IF HE FELL OUT OF A BOAT??!!!
are you kidding me that Auguyo held him
Church swung at a crap pitch. DP bails out the Cubs. And, Castro is a perfect guy to double up.-JD
some bad swings by Church
I know everyone gives Church a pass b/c of the concussions and time off, but how many times does he K when all we need is CONTACT with the freaking baseball?!
he had to run there IMO
WHY THE HELL ISN’T BELTRAN RUNNING WITH CASTRO UP, TO STAY OUT OF THE DOUBLE PLAY???!!!
Gil: You got your steal. And, might I add, it is about time.-JD
I CANT BELIEVE THEY CANT HIT THE DAMN BALL IN THE AIR ONCE
WHatever guys just another feather in Minaya’s hat thats his boy coaching 3rd. Anyone who thinks that was a good move to hold him is clueless about baseball.
Do you think Ramirez had a chance at Delgado if he dove to tag him?-JD
This is unbelievable.
The bottom of the lineup has been absolutely useless to expect something from them is assanine.
Fundamentals - twice now a fly ball gets the run … even though delgado should be home
im surprised they would walk chavez. now the lineup is turned out for the ninth
No.
The Cubs are scared of Endy Chavez?
JD: I dont know about Gil but I do but like a smart ballplayer he took the sure out.
take one for the team
3-1 TAKE ALL THE WAY!!!
You people who said this was over after one unlucky play haven’t been watching this season. This team continually takes punches to the gut, and they keep coming.
R-MART!!!!!!!!!!
Thank You Lou Piniella!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank F*CK!NG God!
Sorry for the cursing, JD.
I think Ramon Martinez earned a start.
and members of the free ramon martinez fan club rejoice
Ramon Martinez. Remember that name. He could be a trivia answer if the Mets get in the playoffs.-JD
Beltran’s steal was big in this inning. Maybe prevented a DP
hey why not start him?
Mackey: Understandable. It would have been either way.-JD
i think this may be one of those last licks types of games. good thing we’re at home
Well glad the cubs went to the school of mets pitching lets nibble till we die.
Jay L.: Agreed, why not?-JD
If we could’ve just gotten a Jose Reyes hit there…Baseball gods, please help our bullpen put up a zero…
dont forget maine in the bullpen
JD i think you may have 300 comments on the blog tonight
Gil: The zero here is huge. Go for the win against someone not named wood.
Ramon is the new 2B for now
Its not even that i fear wood so much David. It’s that they need a chance to come up there to end it with one swing.
for the record, this ump tonight has had a very mets-centric strike zone
Agreed Jay.
too bad im not watching on SNY….would have loved to hear Gary deride the head first slide into 1B
I DO NOT LIKE SEEING JIM EDMONDS UP RIGHT HERE…
What the hell happened to Brett Myers? Mets need this game so bad, especially w/ the Brewers winning, the Phils losing, and Pedro going tomorrow.
Gil - I agree 100%
Jay - you’re right. Gary spent 2 minutes talking about the head-first slide into 1b.
Baseball gods, we mercifully ask that you now hear our prayer.
You helped us get through the top f the ninth.
Please, we beseech you to aid us in our hour of need. Please help us score in the bottom of this inning to win…
If this game goes to the 10th, gotta stick with Ayala right?
I love Gary, but he’s a bit predictable sometimes in what sticks in his craw
Daniel needs to dropkick this ball in a gap somewhere.
im gonna start calling him dropkick murphy
Dan the Man strikes again
Wow huge bobble of that relay. And give me some love for calling that.
SO HOW ARE THEY GONNA SCREW THIS ONE UP???
i love that kid
that is why they better not trade him in the offseason
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why aren’t they walking Wright and Delgado to get the force at the plate?-JD
nobody is trading anybody
Tomorrow some tabloid writer will write a story that Murphy is the team MVP.
JD - I think after watching this game they are afraid of the bases loaded walk
I think you have to walk Delgado and Beltran.-JD
Wow looks like lou played it like he wanted.
oh…….man wright…….
just an awful AB by wright. Now you’re probably looking at Church whos been striking out and tapping out an awful lot.
they have no chance to win if this goes to the tenth….this is it
they need to end this game its killing me
Its amazing how up until 3 weeks ago, church was THE guy you wanted up in this spot. Baseball is a funny game
Church needs to step up in this spot.
I hope im wrong but I just dont like this matchup.
Suicide squeeze with Church.
There should be a clause in every Met non-pitcher contract, if you cannot make contact with the ball with a man on third and no one out, you don’t get paid for that game. That’s like a professional writer forgetting how to use punctuation!
Playoffs have begun early this year. come on Church.
BH: I’m not crazy about that analogy.-JD
i dont know where that missed…
this is a nightmare
Wow…..Game & Season almost done.
Church has killed us this whole game.
Personally any thoughts of Wright as MVP died with that AB.
Lead off triple you cant score you dont deserve a thing. As i said the bottom of the lineup is just awful.
i think they could use a rainout off day tomorrow
Please, baseball gods…
Season over kids….
what a choke
Fly ball gets a run
Disgusting baseball by the mets in that any. Started by your “team leader”…Unreal
How many times are they gonna swing at high fastballs?
Wright is officially in my “doghouse” at this point. Too many K’s at the worst possible moment. It will take at least half a season for him to redeem himself in my eyes.
Church can go back to the Nats if this is how he plays when the pressure is on. I mean seriously, I’ll take my chances with Nick in the OF right about now.
David Wright cant even hit a fly ball make contact
MIL wins.
Looks like it is over
that was an uplifting inning…
C’mon, let’s be honest with each other. All you veteran Met watchers can’t be surprised we’re going into extra innings.-JD
Brewers have won.-JD
Im really besides myself about all this.
dont get too excited about the bottom of the tenth either. Castillo-R-Mart-Reyes.
Start Martinez tomorrow!
OK … Ramon Martinez starts tomorrow at second.-JD
Apparently Ramon freaking Martinez is the only player who brought a pair to the park tonight. Delgaldo as well.
There’s our starting 2b
JD - I don’t know if you grew up a Mets fan or if you inherited it, but this is our existence man.
David: We are talking stones, right?-JD
JD: Indeed I am !
I do not like this situation with Derek Lee up. Not one bit.
Jay L: I grew up in Cleveland rooting for the Rocky Colavito and Sam McDowell Indians. I watched a lot of bad baseball in an empty stadium growing up.-JD
Gil - I don’t like the fact that I can’t go to bed yet.
Prediction - Lee hits a single here
Jay L.: When I got dumped by Gannett, I knew the blog is what I would miss most. That, and the paycheck, of course. I’m doing this because a lot of you asked me to and I am thrilled. This is so much fun for me.-JD
I think I’ve aged three years watching this game…and I’m very afraid of how it’s going to end.
Its funny how i have more confidence in the cubs to score with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs than i did the mets with runner on 3rd and 0 outs.
They activated Maine
i was wrong. he hit a double
and my confidence was rewarded. Sweet.
David: You were saying? Great at-bat by Lee.-JD
Thanks D-Rod
This is really the season right here.
Jd,
Glad you went solo.
I’ll be hanging around after the game if you have questions. And, to talk you off the ledge.-JD
Man on third no outs and D-Rod cant even elevate the ball for a routine fly ball…
Where’s the sac flies tonight JD? I am so freakin’ sick of this NO HEART NO FUNDAMENTALS NY Mets team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dave: Not solo. I have you guys. I’ll keep this blog.-JD
JD: I have a couple of messages you can send the front office and the team if you’d like.
Chili: Nice to hear from you. Where have you been all night?-JD
Wow I’m still in shock at how much they had to choke to actually blow this game… first a four run lead… then three failed scoring opportunities…Night all
And there goes the season. Wright,Church and Perez for that matter should be beaten like the bitches they are after the game.
Wags is back!
Looks like Manuel’s got Willie disease…leaves his pitchers in for 1 inning too many….this is a freakin’ killer loss!
ive gotta get outta here. night all. thanks JD
Once you give up the hit to Lee, you have to hold it to won run. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. The way this game has gone you have to think one run is possible.-JD
You know what lets f-ing give minaya a 4 year extension.
What is the strongest obscenity I can post here? Please insert such a phrase here.
But the Mets won’t go down without a fight. They will get a run in and have runners on base when it ends.
Jay L.: Good night. See you tomorrow.-JD
Dan: 1-2-3 10th The cubs have a real closer.
Cant hang this one one the pen. They kept them in it until the 10th. Ayala going his 3rd straight day, and asked to pitch 2 innings no less.
Tonight was a must have and the mets softball team laid an f-ing egg wow.
I’ll hang this one squarely on the feminine shoulder of Wright. Not only does he fail with the winning run on 3rd with no outs but he chases ball four. My other ass clown for the night is Oliver Perez giving a 4 run lead he choked it away.
BTW, is Ryan freakin’ Church lost out there or what? His swings look like crap and the little flair that Martinez caught, if you check out the replay, it’s like he wasn’t even running…..Manuel might wanna look to sit Church because that freakin’ guy is lost.
Ray: You knew the Cubs would eventually get to the Mets’ pen. Pin this one on the offense not hitting with runners in scoring position. And, of course, Oliver Perez coming up so small. A guy in his walk year has to show more than he did.-JD
Yeah, D Wright is a real freakin’ choker! Again JD, where’s the sac fly?
Dammit. Castillo has to run harder than that. Weak effort. Really weak.-JD
I know, I know, 10 sac flies this year but call Elias up and I’ll bet not in critical situations…..
Chili: I don’t know. Inexcusable how they have hit in the clutch.-JD
whatever happens the bext 4 games this team has no business in the playoffs.
1-2-freakin’-3
A lot of pressure on Pedro Martinez tomorrow. My confidence level isn’t high.-JD
Ten runners stranded. Just terrible.-JD
no heart, no heart
JD: Season’s over. I try to be a level headed fan but the season is absolutely over. No way they will bounce back after this loss tonight.
Sabathia showed what he’s made of tonight. So did Oliver Perez.-JD
lose 3 of 4 to the Cubbies at home and Brewers are off so the Mets go into the weekend 2 games behind Phillies and 1 behind the Brew Crew….anyone want my 2 tickets for Saturday? Game over, Season over!
JD: So did Wright.
You guys agree with David?-JD
I guess the Cubs increased their lead in best differential after the 6th inning while the Mets got worse and worse. But you gotta get a key base hit, a flyball.
Who do we root for if we blow this one? Tampa, but they are the trendy choice. How about Minnesota?
How bad are the Mets? We have the same record as the Yankees.
No way Perez gets a big contract this year. You have Sabathia, who came up big for his team tonight, Sheets and Burnett Whos having a big year. Ollie will always be a coin flip.
no way the come back…no heart and Pedro absolutely sucks!
Mets were 2-for-10 with RISP in the last four innings. That’s where the game was lost. Wright was a big part of that.-JD
Why does Keith talk about choking up and no hitter seems to shorten up anymore?
Dan: No Mets in October, you have to root for Tampa Bay. I know I will.-JD
I think it has more to do with talent then heart. Look at those matchups again for the next 4 game:
Pedro Vs. Harden
Pelfrey Vs. Volstad
Who Knows Vs. Nolasco
Olsen Vs. Santana
they needed to find a way tonight and absolutely choked it away. At best i see them splitting the next 4.
well JD, just wow…any reason for even me to be optimistic after that? although i do expect a good start from pedro tomorrow and that is VERY optimistic
JD - how in the hell can the Wilpons give Minaya a new 4 year deal when his failure as the GM cause 2 consecutive September collapses? The Mets suck. The Wilpons suck. And Minaya sucks! I hate the freakin’ Mets!
Can you guys tell I am freakin’ pissed?
I dont agree with David. As bitter as this loss was, they are still tied with the brewers. Like Yogi said, It aint over til its over.
dave: Choking up? What’s that? …. I’m being sarcastic. It’s all part of the lack of fundamentals with today’s players.-JD
No I do not agree with David.
There are still games to be played.
Looks like I won’t have any hesitation going to the coliseum nest Wednesday for the Islanders game. I can take them being bad this year and next.
Chili: Yes, we can … and you don’t hate the Mets. You love them. That’s why you’re thinking of throwing a shoe at your TV.-JD
Ray I love your optimism. I guess im just a lost cause tonight. But i look at those matchups. And i see the Brewers playting the Pirates tomorrow and the cubs who will in my opinion be laying it up this weekend and i just dont feel very confident.
You know the Marlins hate the Mets. They’ll be pumped this weekend.-JD
Society in general. No fundamentals. No work. All flash, no substance.
I did throw something at the TV, but not my shoe…a freakin’ rookie comes up big with a leadoff triple and D freakin’ Wright can’t hit a sac fly? There is no way that is possible!
I don’t see the Cubs mailing it in this weekend. I do see the Brewers being sky high.-JD
Was anybody else expecting to see Maine in the game tonight?
Yeah, Marlins will come in looking to repeat last year! Schedule makers are evil, aren’t they?
Ray: If it lasted longer I thought he’d pitch. I’m glad he didn’t. But, everybody knows my opinion on that.-JD
Good night gang….again, if it wasn’t clear, I hate the freakin Mets!
JD: Well maybe not 100% mailing it in. They will keep the rotation in tact. But i just see them sneaking more days off. Derek Lee will probably get a day. With Derosa’s injury tonight Im sure he will get a day or two. Im sure they wont overtax any of the big guys in the pen. No i dont think we’ll see a B lineup by any stretch but i think we’ll see very cautious baseball. Meanwhile the mets will playing a dangerous team playing with everything they got.
Pelfrey hasn’t pitched well vs. Florida. … Saturday’s starter could be anybody. … Santana’s start might not mean anything.-JD
JD: You realize you’re agreeing with me with all your comments
Chili: See you tomorrow.-JD
David, Heres something to make you optimistic. The Cubs are not laying down for the Mets and wont against thier division rival. The Brewers have a worse pen than the Mets. If it goes to the last game, we have a well rested Santana and they have a Sabathia going his fourth game on 3 days rest.
David: We’ve had this talk before on great minds, right?-JD
I can’t believe the ninth inning. That was the worse inning all year.-JD
Ray: To steal from JD Sunday’s game may not matter. The most optimistic I will be is saying the mets will earn a 1 game playoff with the brewers with Oliver Perez on the mound.
JD, this must be a record number of posts on your site. Congrats.
Ray: It is a record on this blog. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.-JD
JD: Yeah congrats i wish they were on better terms and sorry Ive lost it this evening. I’ll lose a screw every so often.
wow.
he’s crying
I have few words.
I don’t know how I can invest so much time and emotion in a group of people who find new ways every year to disappoint me and betray my devotion to them.
I must be insane to place so mush trust and hope in them, holding out hope of an ultimate, joyous reward for my loyalty.
I just can’t take much more of this.
I can’t.
Dave: Who’s crying
Gil: You’ll be back tomorrow. You’ll be back next year. If you love a team, you never, EVER, give up on it. The loyalty between fan and team is strong. Unfortunately, the loyalty between team and fan isn’t so strong. And, you all know what I mean.-JD
Jerry.
Listen to his voice in the post game.
It sounded like crying to me.
id cry if i were jerry too
dave: He didn’t sound good at all. When somebody says, “we’ve got to find a way,” it comes off as desperation.-JD
Even if they don’t make the playoffs, I can still see the Mets bringing back Manuel.-JD
By the way i posted the pitching matchups before for the mets this is how it looks for the brewers:
Zach Duke Vs. Yovani Gollardo
Ryan Dempster Vs. Jeff Suppan
Ted Lilly Vs. Ben Sheets
Jason Marquis Vs. CC Sabathis
Unlike the mets with the pedro matchup and the unknown matchup. I dont see any sure firs losses. MIL can win all these matchups of course they could lose em all as well. Big hope for the mets both Gallardo and Sheets are coming off injury and sheets isnt a sure thing.
I think Jerry changed the tone of the team.
as we all know this is a very flawed team.
It is good these young guys get their licks in this year and hopefully Church gets to rest up and come back next year.
The offseason will be mostly about pitching and bench depth.
JD: I really think they should bring him back. Guy has coached his tail off the last couple of weeks especially with the bullpen. You can’t pin it on him.
dave: It is a very flawed team. Fixing the bullpen will be about getting new players. Most of the position players should return. They are about the hitting with RISP stat. How do you make that better? I don’t know.-JD
one more thing. they need to search for a new 3rd base coach. too many blunders there this year.
dave: I can see that change. I can also see them drop HoJo because of the RISP stat.-JD
I hear all this talk about David Wright not hitting a sac fly, and that’s true. But, truth be told, if never should have come to that. They needed Oliver Perez to pitch big and he came up so small. And, they had chances in the seventh and eighth that they let get away.-JD
I love the Mets.
But their performance hurts me so much.
I can take being disappointed, but every year and in so many ways?
I think about the money and time I invested in watching them play in San Diego and in Atlanta.
And what did I get for it?
Four agonizing losses and heartache.
Every night I invest three hours.
What’s my retrun?
Yes, love for team is unconditional, but this is becoming sado masochism without the whips and chains.
JD: You know i hate to keep picking on him tonight but the main culprit for that once again is wright.
Delagldo 159 AB 75 RBI .277
Beltran 180 AB 80 RBI .278
Reyes 113 AB 49 RBI .274
Wright 187 AB 76 RBI .246
Delgaldo has 1 less RBI in almost 30 fewer chances.
Gil: Or the happy ending….
JD: One more thing JD I do agree with you about Perez. A guy with his stuff should of never put the mets in that spot.
JD
perhaps they can get keith to be the hitting coach. someone who will teach situational hitting. I don’t know. but when keith started talking about choking up, i realize that is not done anymore.
know the count, protect when you are behind. get a hit not an hr.
anyway. goodnite. its been fun
Gil: Kind of like holding a torch for a woman who doesn’t give you them time of day. I’m sure we could blog on that topic all night.-JD
Dave,
Before you go its funny you say choke up to get a hit and not a HR. However the all time HR King (regardless of your feelings about him) choked up on the bat.
dave: No way Keith wants that job. He doesn’t like the travel or the time he’d have to put in.-JD
David
I never got the chance to see Hank in his prime.
Altho I did see him on 6th ave this year before the all star game in the parade.
JD
you are probably right. both keith and ronny like their jobs.
dave: No heat when you just talk.-JD
good nite guys
JD: On the holding the torch thing, you’re right. One of my favorite Brit-pop bands, OMD, made a career of it in the ’80s and early ’90s.