Mets Chat Room: Perez goes in must-win game for Mets.

With Milwaukee winning last night in the ninth to keep the pressure on, the Mets are faced with another must-win game tonight. Oliver Perez, who has pitched well in big games before for the Mets, will start against a team he hasn’t faced in over three years.

The NL East is still within their grasp, and far preferable to the wild-card. Remember, if it comes down to just Mets and Phillies for the division, the Mets win based on head-to-head. However, for that scenario to apply, the Brewers must fall completely out of wild-card contention.

Do you remember how horrible David Wright looked last week in Washington? He’s turned it around. His two-run hit last night might be one of the most important of the season.

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This post was written by NYMR Archive on September 24, 2008

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430 Comments so far

  1. John Delcos September 24, 2008 6:31 pm

    Jerry Manuel said Johan Santana wouldn’t start Saturday on short rest, but instead will slip a three-sided coin an choose among Nelson Figueroa, Brandon Knight or Jonathan Niese. Who is your choice?-JD

  2. edfever September 24, 2008 6:37 pm

    Pitch it like a spring training game, two innings a piece…

  3. David September 24, 2008 6:46 pm

    You know that spring training idea might just be crazy enough to work. Keep the guys off balance by giving them 3 different looks. Let Knight throw gas like he did early on in his last start between Niese and Figueroa’s junk stuff. Hmmm definitely not a bad idea.

  4. Tiffany September 24, 2008 6:48 pm

    Niese…but on a short leash.

  5. John Delcos September 24, 2008 6:51 pm

    They are liable to use seven or eight pitchers anyway, so they might as well to it by design.-JD

  6. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:04 pm

    I have no take on Perez tonight. I can see two runs in eight innings. I can also see eight runs in two innings.-JD

  7. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 7:09 pm

    Hey, Everybody, JD!
    JD, was something wrong with the blog last weekend? I couldn’t access it last Sunday.

  8. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:15 pm

    Hi Gil: Yes. The server was down for a good part of the weekend. Too bad. I imagine we would have had some interesting comments about the Atlanta series.-JD

  9. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:16 pm

    Mets got lucky there. If the runner wasn’t going, Reyes wouldn’t have been moving to the bag and the Cubs would have had runners on the corners with no outs.-JD

  10. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 7:19 pm

    John, I’ve been thinking. I think we should suspend all debates until the federal bailout goes through. ;)

  11. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 7:21 pm

    Ollies looking tough tonight. He threw alot of pitches in the first. Hope he can go 7 or 8 tonight.

  12. David September 24, 2008 7:21 pm

    Well we saw Johan last night take down the Cubs and Cousy looks like tonight Oliver will have to take down the cubs + Wolf. Awful inning behind the plate for the blue apparently some of randy’s old friends in philly reached out to Mr. Wolf.

  13. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 7:26 pm

    Zambrano’s got nasty stuff so far.

  14. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:26 pm

    Gil: You promised. … But, that was a good one.-JD

  15. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:28 pm

    Braves take the early lead.-JD

  16. edfever September 24, 2008 7:37 pm

    Not feeling it hoping Brewers lose

  17. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:37 pm

    Two innings, 41 pitches for Perez. Nice pace.-JD

  18. David September 24, 2008 7:38 pm

    Well 41 pitches through two innings and Zambrano looking tough. Wow can you say uphill.

  19. dave September 24, 2008 7:38 pm

    As Jerry said as long as they get in.

  20. edfever September 24, 2008 7:39 pm

    Zambrano looks really good

  21. David September 24, 2008 7:43 pm

    Nothing about this so far looks good. The only batter whos worked Zambrano at all was Murphy. No big surprise. Essentially through two innings the mets have not only failed to put up runs they havent even put a dent in the pitch count.

  22. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 7:45 pm

    Zambrano looks like he’s got perfect game stuff tonight.

  23. edfever September 24, 2008 7:46 pm

    I think ollie lost to Zambrano 1-0 once

  24. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:50 pm

    Every game has a moment of decision for a pitcher. This is it for Perez. He can lose the game right here.-JD

  25. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 7:50 pm

    This Cubs lineup reminds me of the ‘02 Angels — no soft touches and the hitters all were great at getting on base via hits or walks.

  26. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 7:53 pm

    Walking the highwire with Ollie P.

  27. John Delcos September 24, 2008 7:55 pm

    Three walks already for Perez. It’s going to be a long night.-JD

  28. David September 24, 2008 7:57 pm

    You know i must take this opportunity to thank ESPN for the pure class they are showing tonight. In what will be the last nationally televised game in the history of Shea stadium. They put a cub legened in the booth whos referred to the Cubs as “Us” and “We” on at least threee occasions. On top of that they have cub fan #1 bill murray join the booth to essentially act like cheerleaders in the booth. Kudos ESPN that’s class if I’ve ever seen it.

  29. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:01 pm

    Good approach by Argenis. Hit the ball where it’s pitched. Of course, a bad bunt takes that all away.

  30. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:05 pm

    Come on David!

  31. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:05 pm

    David: I’m not a fan of any team’s celebrity in the booth. Who cares?-JD

  32. Stuart September 24, 2008 8:05 pm

    Braves lead over Phils trimmed to 3-2. How about 9 hits off Hammels in 3 innings for Atlanta? Phillies may be most vulnerable in their starting pitching.

  33. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:10 pm

    Great at-bat by Wright. He really worked that. He has 123 RBI, one shy of the club record set by Mike Piazza.-JD

  34. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 8:11 pm

    Who was the Cubs legend: Ernie Banks? Ron Santo? Jimmy Qualls?

    Celebrities should be like Woody Allen: just sit in their seats and root. Dick Young said that Susan Heyward went to Ebbets Field wearing a bandana to disguise herself. She wanted to see a game, not be seen

    A Walk with RISP! Move over, 27 Yankees!

  35. alex September 24, 2008 8:14 pm

    well, that was simply awesome

  36. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 8:15 pm

    Hell yea, I really believe Reyes got into Zambrano’s head

  37. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:16 pm

    DELGADO RULES!!!!!

  38. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:16 pm

    Zambrano beat himself that inning. He let the umpire get to him. Lost his composure. It was a “Bad Ollie,” kind of inning.-JD

  39. David September 24, 2008 8:17 pm

    Well its what i said prior to the game work the count and get in big Z’s head. Murphy had the big AB in my mind and setting up the blast. It’s imperative Ollie puts up some zeroes now.

  40. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 8:17 pm

    Zambrano may be a great pitcher, but he’s really a huge huge baby. He is such a hot head and gets into these temper tantrums all the time.

  41. edfever September 24, 2008 8:19 pm

    I love to be wrong

  42. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:19 pm

    I cant believe how far down the line Reyes was. Between the Ump and Reyes, Zambrano was freaked out.

  43. edfever September 24, 2008 8:21 pm

    they win tonight and it will be about Gado’s slam (rightfully so) but D-Rex and D-Wright had critical at bats

  44. edfever September 24, 2008 8:22 pm

    Ray,

    I was at the Milledge high 5 game he did the same thing could have stole home totally freaked Benny out…

  45. David September 24, 2008 8:24 pm

    Well in MIL CC gets out of a bases loaded 1 out jam. Silver lining if you want one is 28 pitches through 1. Let’s remember he’s on 3 days rest.

  46. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:24 pm

    David: He’ll go on three days rest again this weekend.-JD

  47. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:25 pm

    Ed, The only thing ive seen like it is old Jackie Robinson video. Nice job of Ollie to put a zero up there after the big inning.

  48. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:26 pm

    I like what the Mets have done recently with the numbers countdown. Ed Charles tonight. But, I would have liked to have seen more guys throughout the season. That’s just me, though.-JD

  49. edfever September 24, 2008 8:27 pm

    they’ll burn him out - using him like a rental

  50. edfever September 24, 2008 8:28 pm

    who’s pulling one Seaver

  51. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 8:29 pm

    Yeah JD, would have loved to see Mota come back and pull down the 59

  52. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:30 pm

    ED: Well, that’s what he is, isn’t he? Nobody expects Milwaukee to sign him. Doing this is only a win-win situation for CC as he showcases himself for the FA market.-JD

  53. edfever September 24, 2008 8:31 pm

    not if he hurts himself

  54. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:31 pm

    Mackey: Not as much as I would have liked Steve Trachsel to pull down his number.-JD

  55. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:34 pm

    Mentioning Mota and Trachsel reminds me of the other night when we were talking at the end of the game about the most unpopular Mets. Of course, we’ll add Heilman from this year. Who else is on the most despised list?-JD

  56. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:38 pm

    John, Sisk was the first. Boonilla was well hated his second time around

  57. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:38 pm

    Ray: Don’t forget Mo Vaughn.-JD

  58. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:40 pm

    Five walks.-JD

  59. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:42 pm

    Despised Mets:

    Mel Rojas
    Armando Benitez
    George Foster
    Kevin McReynolds
    Kenny Rogers

  60. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:42 pm

    Get him out of there.

  61. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:42 pm

    Gil: Good list. Add Roberto Alomar.-JD

  62. edfever September 24, 2008 8:43 pm

    i cant believe he just crushed all that good feeling

  63. David September 24, 2008 8:43 pm

    Wow talk about taking out the garbage…

  64. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:43 pm

    Hows the line go? million dollar arm and a five cent head?

  65. edfever September 24, 2008 8:43 pm

    All that momentum thanks to walks… I’d rather see hits

  66. Jim (Bmore) September 24, 2008 8:44 pm

    please pitch well sanchez

  67. David September 24, 2008 8:44 pm

    I’d rather have seen Lee and Ramirez go back to back jack.

  68. David September 24, 2008 8:45 pm

    At best we’re looking at a 5-5 game going into the bot 5th.

  69. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 8:46 pm

    Roger Cedeno was another one who shouldnt have come back. Vince Coleman wasnt beloved, especially after the firecracker incident.

  70. alex September 24, 2008 8:47 pm

    sigh

  71. David September 24, 2008 8:50 pm

    This just gets better and better by the batter.

  72. edfever September 24, 2008 8:50 pm

    I might have changed my mind on Ollie… You get a four run lead in a game your team desperately needs you cant let this happen on walks

  73. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:50 pm

    Is there anyone at all in the Mets bullpen who doesn’t completely suck?

  74. David September 24, 2008 8:51 pm

    God on a night when the braves have jumped out 9-3 we have to watch this crap…

  75. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:52 pm

    If the Mets lose this game and don’t get into the playoffs, this could be Perez’s last start for them. It was a performance most of us will remember of him.-JD

  76. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 8:52 pm

    And Jim Wolf, the home plate ump, is an @$$hole. He keeps changing his strike zone.

  77. David September 24, 2008 8:52 pm

    I try to be as positive as i can but I have no confidence our metsies can not only comeback but hold off the cubs tonight. I’ll gladly eat crow later on.

  78. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:52 pm

    Gil: No.-JD

  79. edfever September 24, 2008 8:55 pm

    That was awful… where is the urgency by the pitching staff they nibbled the entire time afraid to throw strikes

  80. David September 24, 2008 8:56 pm

    Now you’re asking the mets to get back at Zambrano. You rarely get to an ace multiple times. The mets probably had their one and only shot when they capitalized and got 4.

  81. edfever September 24, 2008 8:57 pm

    I know they’ve shown recsilency but after you get a grand slam off Zambrano to get all those good feeling and have the pitching staff give it all away could be crushing….

    is willie back why is Marlon Anderson in the batters box

  82. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:57 pm

    David: Mets have only two hits tonight. What the Mets have tonight is a gift from the Zambrano meltdown.-JD

  83. David September 24, 2008 8:58 pm

    Well give Marlon credit that was a smart AB not chasing.

  84. John Delcos September 24, 2008 8:59 pm

    David: The hitters should be doing that all the time.-JD

  85. Jay L September 24, 2008 8:59 pm

    It’s clear to me now that when Warthen said three months ago “Perez is fixed”, he was simply allowing Perez to hear in the media that his coaches had confidence in him. He’s not coming back next year. I think the mets would be better off using his departure as a chance to upgrade his rotation spot. Whither AJ Burnett?

  86. David September 24, 2008 8:59 pm

    JD: True it was a gift but much like the cubs you still have to take advantage and Delgaldo did just that.

  87. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 9:00 pm

    Most despised? Richie Hebner was for the one season he was here and mailed it in. He didn’t
    want to be traded to the Mets but some idiot named Torre insisted thinking he could change the gravedigger’s mind.

  88. edfever September 24, 2008 9:00 pm

    Gift that ollie gave back

  89. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:01 pm

    Jay L: I’d trade Burnett for Perez. But, you still have to come up with another starter to replace Pedro Martinez.-JD

  90. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:03 pm

    Folks, if we don’t get to the Cubs in the next inning or so, we’re toast.

  91. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:03 pm

    I’m willing to let Niese and Parnell battle it out for the fifth spot, maybe alongside a cheapo veteran (something similar to Pedro, but cheaper). Please no Kyle Lohse - I consider him a one-year wonder.

  92. David September 24, 2008 9:03 pm

    Well if nothing else. They’ve gotten Zambrano out of there after 5.

  93. edfever September 24, 2008 9:05 pm

    Parnell is releiver material

  94. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:05 pm

    David: Who has the bullpen edge: Mets or Cubs?-JD

  95. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:05 pm

    Just because Keith Law says he’s a reliever doesn’t mean its definetly true

  96. David September 24, 2008 9:05 pm

    Before the mets do anything in Free Agency pitching wise. They need be darn sure what to expect from Maine. That should play large part in what claiber guy they go after.

  97. David September 24, 2008 9:06 pm

    JD: Is that a serious question !!!

  98. David September 24, 2008 9:06 pm

    Im looking for a silver lining.

  99. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:07 pm

    David: Sometimes it’s hard to tell sarcasm writing in this format.-JD

  100. David September 24, 2008 9:09 pm

    Big inning for the mets will prob be the bot of the 6th. You’d got to figure if the Cubs are playing it striaght up they would set up Sma—whatever the hell his name is for 7th. Marmol for 8th. Wood for 9th. Funny anyone of the 3 would be the no doubt closer for the mets.

  101. edfever September 24, 2008 9:11 pm

    LOL you dont come back from deflaters like that, i’ll be very surprised if this even stays close

  102. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:11 pm

    I think Smith needs to grow out of his “i can only get righties out” and figure out a way to give us two effective innings. Manuel cant mix and match for 12 outs and not get burned.

  103. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:12 pm

    who else thought that was gone or over his head?

  104. David September 24, 2008 9:12 pm

    Jay: Over his head for sure.

  105. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:12 pm

    David: You speak the truth about those Cubs relievers.

  106. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:13 pm

    David: Are you talking about Jeff Samardzija, the former Notre Dame receiver?-JD

  107. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 9:13 pm

    A 5-5 game with our bullpen and the Buccos leading the Brew Crew 1-0 in the third. That’s as good as a feeling as lending a credit card to my ex-wife.
    Wonder what the “rehire Minaya” press conference will be like if the team blows a playoff spot?

  108. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:14 pm

    i know maine threw today….whens the earliest we could reasonably expect to see him (and yes, i know they will avoid it if they can, but lets say for argument sake its unavoidable…)

  109. David September 24, 2008 9:14 pm

    JD: That would be him….

    Dan check that 2 walks lead to a brewer run.

  110. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:16 pm

    How about this: Pedro Feliciano has tied the Mets club record for most appearances by a pitcher, with 83.
    Anyone remember back to 1975, when the Dodgers’ Mike Marshall appeared in 116? And if I’m right, he appeared in all five World Series games that year.

  111. David September 24, 2008 9:16 pm

    MIL has bases loaded 1 out as well.

  112. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:16 pm

    Dan: I can tell you what some of the questions would be.-JD

  113. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:17 pm

    Jay: If they activated him today, then I would think we might see him tonight.-JD

  114. David September 24, 2008 9:17 pm

    and here we go again 2 out no one on walk.

  115. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:17 pm

    Not with two outs.
    Please, not a two-out, none on rally.
    For the love of the gods!!!!

  116. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 9:18 pm

    In fairness when the Wilpons hired him, they said they wanted to play meaningful games in September. The Mets have met that standard.
    I expected Minaya would stay and it is defendable. But it seems strange they would leak this info to Buster Olney with a week left.

  117. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:18 pm

    Rincon is the Mets’ third reliever. They’ll use seven tonight. I would bet on it.-JD

  118. David September 24, 2008 9:18 pm

    It’s actually surprising that with 9 hits and 6 walks i believe the Cubs dont have more runs.

  119. David September 24, 2008 9:19 pm

    Rincon is actually 4

  120. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:19 pm

    I would’ve stuck with Smith.

  121. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:19 pm

    i like rincon and not feliciano or suckenweis here. let’s see if im wrong….

  122. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:20 pm

    Dan: They linked it to avoid all the “future of Minaya questions,” should they collapse and not make the playoffs. The leak instead of a press conference also eliminates the “Omar, what’s your role in the bullpen mess?” questions.-JD

  123. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:21 pm

    even if they get out of this pickle, we still have to sit through heilman at some point, plus the other disasters in the pen

  124. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:22 pm

    JD - Is there any shot a guy like Rincon makes the postseason roster? He’s been here three weeks and he’s their best lefty specialist.

  125. David September 24, 2008 9:22 pm

    I have to think either we’re looking at stokes for two innings or we’ll see Maine tonight. Id actually jump through my TV if we see Heilman unless we’re in extra innigs.

  126. alex September 24, 2008 9:22 pm

    i’ll tell you what, even though he is also another met reliever who is probably strictly a specialist — i’ve been nicely surprised by what they’ve gotten out of rincon these last few weeks.

  127. David September 24, 2008 9:23 pm

    PIT walks in a run 2-1 MIL bases loaded. God bless the modern pitcher who cant grow a pair and challenge a batter.

  128. edfever September 24, 2008 9:23 pm

    We look silly rolling out multiple relievers every inning… manuel deserves a contract he’s managing his a** off with this group

  129. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:24 pm

    Jay L.: I don’t know. I think whether that last pitching spot is a righty or lefty reliever will depend on the playoff opponent.-JD

  130. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:25 pm

    Gotta make a move here. Gotta get some runs here.

  131. edfever September 24, 2008 9:25 pm

    Omar made a mess of this pen but he’s done more good then bad but he better come big on this pen in the off-season

  132. David September 24, 2008 9:26 pm

    PIT walks in a 2nd run in a row 3-1 MIL.

  133. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:27 pm

    This is where Tatis’s injury REALLY hurts. You could’ve platooned him with Church, who’s really struggling.

  134. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:28 pm

    It’s odd watching the scoreboard tonight. On one hand they can move within a half-game of first. On the other they can be tied in the wild card.-JD

  135. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:29 pm

    the pirates are so bad

  136. edfever September 24, 2008 9:30 pm

    JD- they need this win Im confident the Brewers will fold against the Cubs but they cant have us by a game going in that would be too close

  137. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:31 pm

    Soriano didn’t play that well. Lucky for the Mets. That should have been caught.-JD

  138. David September 24, 2008 9:32 pm

    Chruch has been rough especially against lefties lately or maybe it just seems that way i dont really have the numbers.

  139. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:34 pm

    think they walk reyes?

  140. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:34 pm

    ED: I don’t see the Brewers folding this weekend at all. Playing at home with the playoffs on the line, I think they’ll do well. Win at least two of three.-JD

  141. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:34 pm

    scratch that, i got confused. wrong reyes

  142. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:35 pm

    will CC go on 3 days rest again on sunday??

  143. David September 24, 2008 9:35 pm

    I agree with JD. You gotta figure Lou will rest certain guys as well. Especially big guys in the pen.

  144. David September 24, 2008 9:35 pm

    Jay: Yes

  145. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:36 pm

    When you’re Argenis Reyes, you’re not going to get that call.-JD

  146. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:37 pm

    All-Mets despised team:

    1b- mo vaughn
    2b-roberto alomar
    ss-rey sanchez
    3b-richie hebner

    of-george foster
    of-kevin mcreyonolds
    of-roger cedeno

    c-

    sp-kenny rogers
    sp-jose lima
    sp-mickey lolich
    sp-steve trachsel
    sp-mike torrez

    rp-Mel Rojas
    rp-Gene Walter
    rp-Guillermo Mota
    rp-alejandro pena
    cl-armando benitez

    bench- mike bordick, david newhan

    anyone think of any despised Mets catchers?

  147. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:39 pm

    Gil: I knew you’d come up with it, but David Newhan? What did he do that was so bad? And, fill me in on Mickey Lolich.-JD

  148. David September 24, 2008 9:42 pm

    Oh boy here we go again.

  149. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:44 pm

    jorge fabergas

  150. David September 24, 2008 9:45 pm

    game over boys and girls

  151. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:45 pm

    Gil: I thought Paul Lo Duca wore out his welcome.-JD

  152. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:46 pm

    Gil: And, who is your manager of this group?-JD

  153. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:46 pm

    dallas green would top my list

  154. edfever September 24, 2008 9:48 pm

    I’ll tell you one thing the way Jerry uses the pen he’s exposes just how bad a job Omar did Willie hid it by using the same guys…. when nobody can get an out it shows…

    brewers pitchers will be burnt

  155. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:48 pm

    Lolich was an ineffective, fat over-the-hill bum who M. Donald Grant stupidly traded away Rusty Staub for, the season after becoming the first Met ever to drive in 100 runs or more.
    Newhan did zilch last year in a bench role. Not one of Omar’s brightest signings.

  156. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:48 pm

    Martinez? Really?

  157. JM September 24, 2008 9:50 pm

    Not Heilman. Please not Heilman. I think they can pull it out still. But not if they use Heilman.

  158. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:50 pm

    Really! Martinez!

  159. alex September 24, 2008 9:50 pm

    that’s what you call pushing the right button

  160. David September 24, 2008 9:51 pm

    Give it to Sabathia on short rest 6inn 96 pitches 3-1 lead. It will be interesting to see if they bring him back for the 7th or hand it over to their pen.

  161. JM September 24, 2008 9:51 pm

    I love it when a guy just shows up and contributes.

  162. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:51 pm

    the bunt was the perfect call there

  163. JM September 24, 2008 9:51 pm

    This is why Reyes needs to figure out how to bunt.

  164. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:52 pm

    JD-Bud Harrelson or Joe Torre would be my manager. I still love LoDuca, steroid cheat he turned out to be.

  165. David September 24, 2008 9:52 pm

    Mets may have caught a break on Reyes being in the baseline and Cedeno’s brain freeze not getting to 1st base in time.

  166. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:53 pm

    LET’S GO METS!
    LET’S GO METS!
    LET’S GO METS!

  167. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:53 pm

    JM: I remember talking to Reyes about this several times. He could probably get close to 30 bunt hits a year with his speed. That’s a little more than one a week.-JD

  168. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:54 pm

    C’mon, Murph!
    You’re a better hitter than this!
    Let’s GO!

  169. David September 24, 2008 9:55 pm

    Thats on jose for not taking off early in the count.

  170. Jay L September 24, 2008 9:55 pm

    GUT PUNCH

  171. David September 24, 2008 9:55 pm

    as i said game over

  172. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    I can’t believe our %$##$% luck!!!
    I just don’t *&^%^&* believe it!!!!

  173. edfever September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    crushing Dp

  174. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    Damn… tough tough break.

  175. John Delcos September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    He couldn’t have hit that any harder. Can’t fault Reyes. The only way he’s not doubled up is if he doesn’t lead off at all. I think Wright is going to plate this run.-JD

  176. edfever September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    thats the game

  177. David September 24, 2008 9:56 pm

    I just dont get huge leg kick from the pitcher how can you not take off.

  178. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:57 pm

    Great point, David.

  179. David September 24, 2008 9:57 pm

    JD: My only question to reyes is the lack of aggresiveness.

  180. David September 24, 2008 9:59 pm

    Where the preverbial fork

  181. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 9:59 pm

    Disgraceful.

  182. edfever September 24, 2008 9:59 pm

    lee reminded me jerry doesnt have wright guard the line very often and he gets beat alot to his right

  183. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:00 pm

    It was just a feeling on Wright.-JD

  184. David September 24, 2008 10:01 pm

    Looks like the brewers are taking care of business against the last place team.

  185. JM September 24, 2008 10:02 pm

    No, we’re still in this.

  186. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:02 pm

    what more can be said? there was nothing to be done there

  187. edfever September 24, 2008 10:02 pm

    That DP was a game winner

  188. edfever September 24, 2008 10:03 pm

    i think this makes it an even 30 blown

  189. David September 24, 2008 10:04 pm

    I agree it was bad luck there but sometimes you have to make your luck by being aggresive. Young pitcher on the mound with a huge leg kick young catcher behind the plate, one of the most prolific base stealers in baseball. How are you not taking off first or second pitch?

  190. edfever September 24, 2008 10:04 pm

    Pedro tomorrow- funny well this went bad fast

  191. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:06 pm

    Heilman warming. I can hear the groaning on my laptop.-JD

  192. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:06 pm

    Please no Aaron Heilman.
    No.
    Spare us the pain.

  193. edfever September 24, 2008 10:07 pm

    Dave- your right I was thinking the same thing steal to keep out of the DP

  194. David September 24, 2008 10:08 pm

    I’d really like some feedback from everyone else as to Reyes not running there. Maybe Im just clueless so i want some other opinions

  195. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 10:09 pm

    We are going to win this game

  196. JM September 24, 2008 10:09 pm

    This team has fight. I love it.

  197. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    Torborg has to be the manager. I used to listen to him on the daily spot he had with Mike and the Mad Dog. Stupider than Art Howe which takes doing.

    I’m trying to think if any 1960s Mets were despised. Maybe Kranepool. One sign in 1965 asked “Is Ed Kranepool over the hill?” He was 20 at the time. Became popular in the 70s as a pinch hitter. Duke Snider begged to be traded to the Mets in 1963 so he could play everyday and in 1964 begged to be traded to a winner for his final year.
    Here we go again with the leadoff man on second.

  198. JM September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    Yes, Mackey Sasser!!

  199. David September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    MAckey: From your mouth to god’s ears: Or your keyboard i dont know the translation…

  200. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    WE
    MUST
    SCORE!

  201. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    what are the chances they dont score here? 50-50?

  202. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    David: Reyes can run whenever he wants unless Jerry puts up the stop sign.-JD

  203. David September 24, 2008 10:10 pm

    HOW THE HELL IS HE NOT SENT HOME. OH MY GOOD GOD.

  204. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 10:11 pm

    Sounds like we need a new 3rd base coach and ASAP

  205. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:11 pm

    WHY IN THE *&^% WAS DELGADO HELD AT THIRD?!!!

  206. David September 24, 2008 10:11 pm

    3rd base coach strikes again. Wow now your hoping for a deep fly ball to get delgaldo home. just wow.

  207. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:11 pm

    he would have been out David

  208. David September 24, 2008 10:12 pm

    I have a very bad feeling about this.

  209. dave September 24, 2008 10:12 pm

    One more note to Omar: new 3rd base coach.

  210. alex September 24, 2008 10:12 pm

    anyone know who the free agent 3rd base coaches are this offseason?

  211. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:12 pm

    how about sending beltran though?

  212. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:12 pm

    David: No outs. If any doubt keep him at third. How many times have we seen a guy get nailed at the plate?-JD

  213. David September 24, 2008 10:13 pm

    Jay: I’d like to see what everyone else thinks about that Reed Johnson does not have a gun out there.

  214. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:13 pm

    dave: Just add it to the list.-JD

  215. David September 24, 2008 10:13 pm

    Ok guys lets see how holding him works out.

  216. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:13 pm

    now you have to send beltran to avoid the double play. dont you???

  217. David September 24, 2008 10:14 pm

    Delgaldo read that ball perfectly had a good jump. Johnson was playing deep. Especially with the bottom of the lineup coming up. Castro right here has DP written all over it.

  218. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:14 pm

    WHY THE ^%$% IS BELTRAN NOT %$#$%$# STEALING SECOND BASE????!!!!!!
    AND WHY CAN’T RYAN CHURCH HIT WATER IF HE FELL OUT OF A BOAT??!!!

  219. edfever September 24, 2008 10:14 pm

    are you kidding me that Auguyo held him

  220. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:14 pm

    Church swung at a crap pitch. DP bails out the Cubs. And, Castro is a perfect guy to double up.-JD

  221. bosco September 24, 2008 10:15 pm

    some bad swings by Church

  222. BH September 24, 2008 10:16 pm

    I know everyone gives Church a pass b/c of the concussions and time off, but how many times does he K when all we need is CONTACT with the freaking baseball?!

  223. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:16 pm

    he had to run there IMO

  224. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:16 pm

    WHY THE HELL ISN’T BELTRAN RUNNING WITH CASTRO UP, TO STAY OUT OF THE DOUBLE PLAY???!!!

  225. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:16 pm

    Gil: You got your steal. And, might I add, it is about time.-JD

  226. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:17 pm

    I CANT BELIEVE THEY CANT HIT THE DAMN BALL IN THE AIR ONCE

  227. David September 24, 2008 10:17 pm

    WHatever guys just another feather in Minaya’s hat thats his boy coaching 3rd. Anyone who thinks that was a good move to hold him is clueless about baseball.

  228. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:17 pm

    Do you think Ramirez had a chance at Delgado if he dove to tag him?-JD

  229. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    This is unbelievable.

  230. David September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    The bottom of the lineup has been absolutely useless to expect something from them is assanine.

  231. edfever September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    Fundamentals - twice now a fly ball gets the run … even though delgado should be home

  232. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    im surprised they would walk chavez. now the lineup is turned out for the ninth

  233. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    No.

    The Cubs are scared of Endy Chavez?

  234. David September 24, 2008 10:18 pm

    JD: I dont know about Gil but I do but like a smart ballplayer he took the sure out.

  235. bosco September 24, 2008 10:19 pm

    take one for the team

  236. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:20 pm

    3-1 TAKE ALL THE WAY!!!

  237. JM September 24, 2008 10:20 pm

    You people who said this was over after one unlucky play haven’t been watching this season. This team continually takes punches to the gut, and they keep coming.

  238. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:20 pm

    R-MART!!!!!!!!!!

  239. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 10:20 pm

    Thank You Lou Piniella!

  240. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:21 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  241. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 10:21 pm

    Thank F*CK!NG God!

    Sorry for the cursing, JD.

  242. JM September 24, 2008 10:21 pm

    I think Ramon Martinez earned a start.

  243. alex September 24, 2008 10:21 pm

    and members of the free ramon martinez fan club rejoice

  244. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:21 pm

    Ramon Martinez. Remember that name. He could be a trivia answer if the Mets get in the playoffs.-JD

  245. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 10:22 pm

    Beltran’s steal was big in this inning. Maybe prevented a DP

  246. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:22 pm

    hey why not start him?

  247. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:22 pm

    Mackey: Understandable. It would have been either way.-JD

  248. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:23 pm

    i think this may be one of those last licks types of games. good thing we’re at home

  249. David September 24, 2008 10:24 pm

    Well glad the cubs went to the school of mets pitching lets nibble till we die.

  250. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:25 pm

    Jay L.: Agreed, why not?-JD

  251. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:26 pm

    If we could’ve just gotten a Jose Reyes hit there…Baseball gods, please help our bullpen put up a zero…

  252. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:26 pm

    dont forget maine in the bullpen

  253. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:27 pm

    JD i think you may have 300 comments on the blog tonight

  254. David September 24, 2008 10:27 pm

    Gil: The zero here is huge. Go for the win against someone not named wood.

  255. edfever September 24, 2008 10:27 pm

    Ramon is the new 2B for now

  256. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:28 pm

    Its not even that i fear wood so much David. It’s that they need a chance to come up there to end it with one swing.

  257. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:29 pm

    for the record, this ump tonight has had a very mets-centric strike zone

  258. David September 24, 2008 10:29 pm

    Agreed Jay.

  259. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:31 pm

    too bad im not watching on SNY….would have loved to hear Gary deride the head first slide into 1B

  260. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:31 pm

    I DO NOT LIKE SEEING JIM EDMONDS UP RIGHT HERE…

  261. JM September 24, 2008 10:32 pm

    What the hell happened to Brett Myers? Mets need this game so bad, especially w/ the Brewers winning, the Phils losing, and Pedro going tomorrow.

  262. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:32 pm

    Gil - I agree 100%

  263. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 10:35 pm

    Jay - you’re right. Gary spent 2 minutes talking about the head-first slide into 1b.

  264. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:35 pm

    Baseball gods, we mercifully ask that you now hear our prayer.
    You helped us get through the top f the ninth.
    Please, we beseech you to aid us in our hour of need. Please help us score in the bottom of this inning to win…

  265. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:36 pm

    If this game goes to the 10th, gotta stick with Ayala right?

  266. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:37 pm

    I love Gary, but he’s a bit predictable sometimes in what sticks in his craw

  267. David September 24, 2008 10:37 pm

    Daniel needs to dropkick this ball in a gap somewhere.

  268. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:37 pm

    im gonna start calling him dropkick murphy

  269. bosco September 24, 2008 10:39 pm

    Dan the Man strikes again

  270. David September 24, 2008 10:39 pm

    Wow huge bobble of that relay. And give me some love for calling that.

  271. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:39 pm

    SO HOW ARE THEY GONNA SCREW THIS ONE UP???

  272. alex September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    i love that kid

  273. dave September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    that is why they better not trade him in the offseason

  274. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  275. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    Why aren’t they walking Wright and Delgado to get the force at the plate?-JD

  276. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    nobody is trading anybody

  277. Scott from Pelham September 24, 2008 10:40 pm

    Tomorrow some tabloid writer will write a story that Murphy is the team MVP.

  278. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:42 pm

    JD - I think after watching this game they are afraid of the bases loaded walk

  279. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:43 pm

    I think you have to walk Delgado and Beltran.-JD

  280. David September 24, 2008 10:43 pm

    Wow looks like lou played it like he wanted.

  281. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:43 pm

    oh…….man wright…….

  282. David September 24, 2008 10:44 pm

    just an awful AB by wright. Now you’re probably looking at Church whos been striking out and tapping out an awful lot.

  283. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:44 pm

    they have no chance to win if this goes to the tenth….this is it

  284. bosco September 24, 2008 10:44 pm

    they need to end this game its killing me

  285. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:45 pm

    Its amazing how up until 3 weeks ago, church was THE guy you wanted up in this spot. Baseball is a funny game

  286. bosco September 24, 2008 10:45 pm

    Church needs to step up in this spot.

  287. David September 24, 2008 10:45 pm

    I hope im wrong but I just dont like this matchup.

  288. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:46 pm

    Suicide squeeze with Church.

  289. BH September 24, 2008 10:46 pm

    There should be a clause in every Met non-pitcher contract, if you cannot make contact with the ball with a man on third and no one out, you don’t get paid for that game. That’s like a professional writer forgetting how to use punctuation!

  290. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 10:46 pm

    Playoffs have begun early this year. come on Church.

  291. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:47 pm

    BH: I’m not crazy about that analogy.-JD

  292. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:47 pm

    i dont know where that missed…

  293. bosco September 24, 2008 10:48 pm

    this is a nightmare

  294. David September 24, 2008 10:48 pm

    Wow…..Game & Season almost done.

  295. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 10:48 pm

    Church has killed us this whole game.

  296. David September 24, 2008 10:49 pm

    Personally any thoughts of Wright as MVP died with that AB.

  297. David September 24, 2008 10:49 pm

    Lead off triple you cant score you dont deserve a thing. As i said the bottom of the lineup is just awful.

  298. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:50 pm

    i think they could use a rainout off day tomorrow

  299. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:50 pm

    Please, baseball gods…

  300. David September 24, 2008 10:50 pm

    Season over kids….

  301. edfever September 24, 2008 10:51 pm

    what a choke
    Fly ball gets a run

  302. David September 24, 2008 10:51 pm

    Disgusting baseball by the mets in that any. Started by your “team leader”…Unreal

  303. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 10:51 pm

    How many times are they gonna swing at high fastballs?

  304. BH September 24, 2008 10:51 pm

    Wright is officially in my “doghouse” at this point. Too many K’s at the worst possible moment. It will take at least half a season for him to redeem himself in my eyes.

    Church can go back to the Nats if this is how he plays when the pressure is on. I mean seriously, I’ll take my chances with Nick in the OF right about now.

  305. edfever September 24, 2008 10:52 pm

    David Wright cant even hit a fly ball make contact

  306. David September 24, 2008 10:52 pm

    MIL wins.

  307. Kevin September 24, 2008 10:52 pm

    Looks like it is over

  308. dave September 24, 2008 10:52 pm

    that was an uplifting inning…

  309. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:52 pm

    C’mon, let’s be honest with each other. All you veteran Met watchers can’t be surprised we’re going into extra innings.-JD

  310. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:53 pm

    Brewers have won.-JD

  311. David September 24, 2008 10:53 pm

    Im really besides myself about all this.

  312. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:54 pm

    dont get too excited about the bottom of the tenth either. Castillo-R-Mart-Reyes.

  313. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:54 pm

    Start Martinez tomorrow!

  314. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:55 pm

    OK … Ramon Martinez starts tomorrow at second.-JD

  315. David September 24, 2008 10:55 pm

    Apparently Ramon freaking Martinez is the only player who brought a pair to the park tonight. Delgaldo as well.

  316. Mackey Sasser September 24, 2008 10:55 pm

    There’s our starting 2b

  317. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:55 pm

    JD - I don’t know if you grew up a Mets fan or if you inherited it, but this is our existence man.

  318. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:55 pm

    David: We are talking stones, right?-JD

  319. David September 24, 2008 10:56 pm

    JD: Indeed I am !

  320. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:56 pm

    I do not like this situation with Derek Lee up. Not one bit.

  321. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:57 pm

    Jay L: I grew up in Cleveland rooting for the Rocky Colavito and Sam McDowell Indians. I watched a lot of bad baseball in an empty stadium growing up.-JD

  322. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:58 pm

    Gil - I don’t like the fact that I can’t go to bed yet.

  323. Jay L September 24, 2008 10:58 pm

    Prediction - Lee hits a single here

  324. John Delcos September 24, 2008 10:59 pm

    Jay L.: When I got dumped by Gannett, I knew the blog is what I would miss most. That, and the paycheck, of course. I’m doing this because a lot of you asked me to and I am thrilled. This is so much fun for me.-JD

  325. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 10:59 pm

    I think I’ve aged three years watching this game…and I’m very afraid of how it’s going to end.

  326. David September 24, 2008 10:59 pm

    Its funny how i have more confidence in the cubs to score with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs than i did the mets with runner on 3rd and 0 outs.

  327. dave September 24, 2008 11:00 pm

    They activated Maine

  328. Jay L September 24, 2008 11:00 pm

    i was wrong. he hit a double

  329. David September 24, 2008 11:01 pm

    and my confidence was rewarded. Sweet.

  330. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:01 pm

    David: You were saying? Great at-bat by Lee.-JD

  331. edfever September 24, 2008 11:01 pm

    Thanks D-Rod

  332. David September 24, 2008 11:02 pm

    This is really the season right here.

  333. dave September 24, 2008 11:02 pm

    Jd,

    Glad you went solo.

  334. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:02 pm

    I’ll be hanging around after the game if you have questions. And, to talk you off the ledge.-JD

  335. edfever September 24, 2008 11:02 pm

    Man on third no outs and D-Rod cant even elevate the ball for a routine fly ball…

  336. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:03 pm

    Where’s the sac flies tonight JD? I am so freakin’ sick of this NO HEART NO FUNDAMENTALS NY Mets team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  337. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:03 pm

    dave: Not solo. I have you guys. I’ll keep this blog.-JD

  338. David September 24, 2008 11:03 pm

    JD: I have a couple of messages you can send the front office and the team if you’d like.

  339. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:04 pm

    Chili: Nice to hear from you. Where have you been all night?-JD

  340. edfever September 24, 2008 11:04 pm

    Wow I’m still in shock at how much they had to choke to actually blow this game… first a four run lead… then three failed scoring opportunities…Night all

  341. David September 24, 2008 11:04 pm

    And there goes the season. Wright,Church and Perez for that matter should be beaten like the bitches they are after the game.

  342. dave September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    Wags is back!

  343. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    Looks like Manuel’s got Willie disease…leaves his pitchers in for 1 inning too many….this is a freakin’ killer loss!

  344. Jay L September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    ive gotta get outta here. night all. thanks JD

  345. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    Once you give up the hit to Lee, you have to hold it to won run. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. The way this game has gone you have to think one run is possible.-JD

  346. David September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    You know what lets f-ing give minaya a 4 year extension.

  347. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 11:05 pm

    What is the strongest obscenity I can post here? Please insert such a phrase here.
    But the Mets won’t go down without a fight. They will get a run in and have runners on base when it ends.

  348. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:06 pm

    Jay L.: Good night. See you tomorrow.-JD

  349. David September 24, 2008 11:06 pm

    Dan: 1-2-3 10th The cubs have a real closer.

  350. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:06 pm

    Cant hang this one one the pen. They kept them in it until the 10th. Ayala going his 3rd straight day, and asked to pitch 2 innings no less.

  351. David September 24, 2008 11:07 pm

    Tonight was a must have and the mets softball team laid an f-ing egg wow.

  352. David September 24, 2008 11:09 pm

    I’ll hang this one squarely on the feminine shoulder of Wright. Not only does he fail with the winning run on 3rd with no outs but he chases ball four. My other ass clown for the night is Oliver Perez giving a 4 run lead he choked it away.

  353. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:09 pm

    BTW, is Ryan freakin’ Church lost out there or what? His swings look like crap and the little flair that Martinez caught, if you check out the replay, it’s like he wasn’t even running…..Manuel might wanna look to sit Church because that freakin’ guy is lost.

  354. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:09 pm

    Ray: You knew the Cubs would eventually get to the Mets’ pen. Pin this one on the offense not hitting with runners in scoring position. And, of course, Oliver Perez coming up so small. A guy in his walk year has to show more than he did.-JD

  355. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:10 pm

    Yeah, D Wright is a real freakin’ choker! Again JD, where’s the sac fly?

  356. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:11 pm

    Dammit. Castillo has to run harder than that. Weak effort. Really weak.-JD

  357. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:12 pm

    I know, I know, 10 sac flies this year but call Elias up and I’ll bet not in critical situations…..

  358. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:12 pm

    Chili: I don’t know. Inexcusable how they have hit in the clutch.-JD

  359. David September 24, 2008 11:13 pm

    whatever happens the bext 4 games this team has no business in the playoffs.

  360. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:14 pm

    1-2-freakin’-3

  361. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:14 pm

    A lot of pressure on Pedro Martinez tomorrow. My confidence level isn’t high.-JD

  362. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:14 pm

    Ten runners stranded. Just terrible.-JD

  363. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:14 pm

    no heart, no heart

  364. David September 24, 2008 11:15 pm

    JD: Season’s over. I try to be a level headed fan but the season is absolutely over. No way they will bounce back after this loss tonight.

  365. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:16 pm

    Sabathia showed what he’s made of tonight. So did Oliver Perez.-JD

  366. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:16 pm

    lose 3 of 4 to the Cubbies at home and Brewers are off so the Mets go into the weekend 2 games behind Phillies and 1 behind the Brew Crew….anyone want my 2 tickets for Saturday? Game over, Season over!

  367. David September 24, 2008 11:16 pm

    JD: So did Wright.

  368. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:17 pm

    You guys agree with David?-JD

  369. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 11:17 pm

    I guess the Cubs increased their lead in best differential after the 6th inning while the Mets got worse and worse. But you gotta get a key base hit, a flyball.

    Who do we root for if we blow this one? Tampa, but they are the trendy choice. How about Minnesota?

    How bad are the Mets? We have the same record as the Yankees.

  370. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:18 pm

    No way Perez gets a big contract this year. You have Sabathia, who came up big for his team tonight, Sheets and Burnett Whos having a big year. Ollie will always be a coin flip.

  371. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:18 pm

    no way the come back…no heart and Pedro absolutely sucks!

  372. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:18 pm

    Mets were 2-for-10 with RISP in the last four innings. That’s where the game was lost. Wright was a big part of that.-JD

  373. dave September 24, 2008 11:19 pm

    Why does Keith talk about choking up and no hitter seems to shorten up anymore?

  374. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:19 pm

    Dan: No Mets in October, you have to root for Tampa Bay. I know I will.-JD

  375. David September 24, 2008 11:20 pm

    I think it has more to do with talent then heart. Look at those matchups again for the next 4 game:

    Pedro Vs. Harden
    Pelfrey Vs. Volstad
    Who Knows Vs. Nolasco
    Olsen Vs. Santana

    they needed to find a way tonight and absolutely choked it away. At best i see them splitting the next 4.

  376. Jim (Bmore) September 24, 2008 11:20 pm

    well JD, just wow…any reason for even me to be optimistic after that? although i do expect a good start from pedro tomorrow and that is VERY optimistic

  377. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:20 pm

    JD - how in the hell can the Wilpons give Minaya a new 4 year deal when his failure as the GM cause 2 consecutive September collapses? The Mets suck. The Wilpons suck. And Minaya sucks! I hate the freakin’ Mets!

    Can you guys tell I am freakin’ pissed?

  378. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:20 pm

    I dont agree with David. As bitter as this loss was, they are still tied with the brewers. Like Yogi said, It aint over til its over.

  379. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:20 pm

    dave: Choking up? What’s that? …. I’m being sarcastic. It’s all part of the lack of fundamentals with today’s players.-JD

  380. dave September 24, 2008 11:21 pm

    No I do not agree with David.

    There are still games to be played.

  381. Dan Gurney September 24, 2008 11:21 pm

    Looks like I won’t have any hesitation going to the coliseum nest Wednesday for the Islanders game. I can take them being bad this year and next.

  382. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:21 pm

    Chili: Yes, we can … and you don’t hate the Mets. You love them. That’s why you’re thinking of throwing a shoe at your TV.-JD

  383. David September 24, 2008 11:22 pm

    Ray I love your optimism. I guess im just a lost cause tonight. But i look at those matchups. And i see the Brewers playting the Pirates tomorrow and the cubs who will in my opinion be laying it up this weekend and i just dont feel very confident.

  384. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:23 pm

    You know the Marlins hate the Mets. They’ll be pumped this weekend.-JD

  385. dave September 24, 2008 11:23 pm

    Society in general. No fundamentals. No work. All flash, no substance.

  386. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:23 pm

    I did throw something at the TV, but not my shoe…a freakin’ rookie comes up big with a leadoff triple and D freakin’ Wright can’t hit a sac fly? There is no way that is possible!

  387. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:24 pm

    I don’t see the Cubs mailing it in this weekend. I do see the Brewers being sky high.-JD

  388. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:24 pm

    Was anybody else expecting to see Maine in the game tonight?

  389. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:25 pm

    Yeah, Marlins will come in looking to repeat last year! Schedule makers are evil, aren’t they?

  390. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:25 pm

    Ray: If it lasted longer I thought he’d pitch. I’m glad he didn’t. But, everybody knows my opinion on that.-JD

  391. ChiliGTC September 24, 2008 11:25 pm

    Good night gang….again, if it wasn’t clear, I hate the freakin Mets!

  392. David September 24, 2008 11:26 pm

    JD: Well maybe not 100% mailing it in. They will keep the rotation in tact. But i just see them sneaking more days off. Derek Lee will probably get a day. With Derosa’s injury tonight Im sure he will get a day or two. Im sure they wont overtax any of the big guys in the pen. No i dont think we’ll see a B lineup by any stretch but i think we’ll see very cautious baseball. Meanwhile the mets will playing a dangerous team playing with everything they got.

  393. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:26 pm

    Pelfrey hasn’t pitched well vs. Florida. … Saturday’s starter could be anybody. … Santana’s start might not mean anything.-JD

  394. David September 24, 2008 11:27 pm

    JD: You realize you’re agreeing with me with all your comments :-)

  395. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:27 pm

    Chili: See you tomorrow.-JD

  396. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:27 pm

    David, Heres something to make you optimistic. The Cubs are not laying down for the Mets and wont against thier division rival. The Brewers have a worse pen than the Mets. If it goes to the last game, we have a well rested Santana and they have a Sabathia going his fourth game on 3 days rest.

  397. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:28 pm

    David: We’ve had this talk before on great minds, right?-JD

  398. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:29 pm

    I can’t believe the ninth inning. That was the worse inning all year.-JD

  399. David September 24, 2008 11:29 pm

    Ray: To steal from JD Sunday’s game may not matter. The most optimistic I will be is saying the mets will earn a 1 game playoff with the brewers with Oliver Perez on the mound.

  400. Ray Sadecki September 24, 2008 11:30 pm

    JD, this must be a record number of posts on your site. Congrats.

  401. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:31 pm

    Ray: It is a record on this blog. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.-JD

  402. David September 24, 2008 11:31 pm

    JD: Yeah congrats i wish they were on better terms and sorry Ive lost it this evening. I’ll lose a screw every so often.

  403. dave September 24, 2008 11:33 pm

    wow.
    he’s crying

  404. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 11:33 pm

    I have few words.
    I don’t know how I can invest so much time and emotion in a group of people who find new ways every year to disappoint me and betray my devotion to them.
    I must be insane to place so mush trust and hope in them, holding out hope of an ultimate, joyous reward for my loyalty.
    I just can’t take much more of this.
    I can’t.

  405. David September 24, 2008 11:34 pm

    Dave: Who’s crying

  406. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:37 pm

    Gil: You’ll be back tomorrow. You’ll be back next year. If you love a team, you never, EVER, give up on it. The loyalty between fan and team is strong. Unfortunately, the loyalty between team and fan isn’t so strong. And, you all know what I mean.-JD

  407. dave September 24, 2008 11:40 pm

    Jerry.

    Listen to his voice in the post game.

    It sounded like crying to me.

  408. David September 24, 2008 11:41 pm

    id cry if i were jerry too

  409. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:41 pm

    dave: He didn’t sound good at all. When somebody says, “we’ve got to find a way,” it comes off as desperation.-JD

  410. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:43 pm

    Even if they don’t make the playoffs, I can still see the Mets bringing back Manuel.-JD

  411. David September 24, 2008 11:45 pm

    By the way i posted the pitching matchups before for the mets this is how it looks for the brewers:

    Zach Duke Vs. Yovani Gollardo
    Ryan Dempster Vs. Jeff Suppan
    Ted Lilly Vs. Ben Sheets
    Jason Marquis Vs. CC Sabathis

    Unlike the mets with the pedro matchup and the unknown matchup. I dont see any sure firs losses. MIL can win all these matchups of course they could lose em all as well. Big hope for the mets both Gallardo and Sheets are coming off injury and sheets isnt a sure thing.

  412. dave September 24, 2008 11:45 pm

    I think Jerry changed the tone of the team.

    as we all know this is a very flawed team.

    It is good these young guys get their licks in this year and hopefully Church gets to rest up and come back next year.

    The offseason will be mostly about pitching and bench depth.

  413. David September 24, 2008 11:46 pm

    JD: I really think they should bring him back. Guy has coached his tail off the last couple of weeks especially with the bullpen. You can’t pin it on him.

  414. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:50 pm

    dave: It is a very flawed team. Fixing the bullpen will be about getting new players. Most of the position players should return. They are about the hitting with RISP stat. How do you make that better? I don’t know.-JD

  415. dave September 24, 2008 11:51 pm

    one more thing. they need to search for a new 3rd base coach. too many blunders there this year.

  416. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:52 pm

    dave: I can see that change. I can also see them drop HoJo because of the RISP stat.-JD

  417. John Delcos September 24, 2008 11:57 pm

    I hear all this talk about David Wright not hitting a sac fly, and that’s true. But, truth be told, if never should have come to that. They needed Oliver Perez to pitch big and he came up so small. And, they had chances in the seventh and eighth that they let get away.-JD

  418. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 24, 2008 11:59 pm

    I love the Mets.
    But their performance hurts me so much.
    I can take being disappointed, but every year and in so many ways?
    I think about the money and time I invested in watching them play in San Diego and in Atlanta.
    And what did I get for it?
    Four agonizing losses and heartache.
    Every night I invest three hours.
    What’s my retrun?
    Yes, love for team is unconditional, but this is becoming sado masochism without the whips and chains.

  419. David September 25, 2008 12:00 am

    JD: You know i hate to keep picking on him tonight but the main culprit for that once again is wright.

    Delagldo 159 AB 75 RBI .277
    Beltran 180 AB 80 RBI .278
    Reyes 113 AB 49 RBI .274

    Wright 187 AB 76 RBI .246

    Delgaldo has 1 less RBI in almost 30 fewer chances.

  420. David September 25, 2008 12:00 am

    Gil: Or the happy ending….

  421. David September 25, 2008 12:01 am

    JD: One more thing JD I do agree with you about Perez. A guy with his stuff should of never put the mets in that spot.

  422. dave September 25, 2008 12:02 am

    JD

    perhaps they can get keith to be the hitting coach. someone who will teach situational hitting. I don’t know. but when keith started talking about choking up, i realize that is not done anymore.

    know the count, protect when you are behind. get a hit not an hr.

    anyway. goodnite. its been fun

  423. John Delcos September 25, 2008 12:02 am

    Gil: Kind of like holding a torch for a woman who doesn’t give you them time of day. I’m sure we could blog on that topic all night.-JD

  424. David September 25, 2008 12:04 am

    Dave,

    Before you go its funny you say choke up to get a hit and not a HR. However the all time HR King (regardless of your feelings about him) choked up on the bat.

  425. John Delcos September 25, 2008 12:04 am

    dave: No way Keith wants that job. He doesn’t like the travel or the time he’d have to put in.-JD

  426. dave September 25, 2008 12:07 am

    David

    I never got the chance to see Hank in his prime.

    Altho I did see him on 6th ave this year before the all star game in the parade.

  427. dave September 25, 2008 12:07 am

    JD

    you are probably right. both keith and ronny like their jobs.

  428. John Delcos September 25, 2008 12:08 am

    dave: No heat when you just talk.-JD

  429. dave September 25, 2008 12:11 am

    good nite guys

  430. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 25, 2008 12:17 am

    JD: On the holding the torch thing, you’re right. One of my favorite Brit-pop bands, OMD, made a career of it in the ’80s and early ’90s.

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