Mets Chat Room: Let’s Play Two

Mets and Braves playing a doubleheader at Shea today. Rain in the forecast for tonight. First game at 4 p.m., the second about a half-hour later. Late start courtesy of TV.

Johan Santana against Mike Hampton in the first game; Jon Niese and Jo-Jo Reyes in the second game.

Brian Schneider catches Santana and will catch Oliver Perez tomorrow. Robinson Cancel will catch Niese in the second game.

Jerry Manuel tried to be coy before the game, saying he didn’t know the club’s magic number is 14. Don’t believe him. I think he’s aware of all those things. He’s too sharp not to know.

Speaking of which, I think it would be appropriate to announce an extension for him and his interim coaches.

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138 Comments so far

  1. John Delcos September 13, 2008 3:46 pm

    They still boo Hampton. I guess people are really sensitive about the schools around here.-JD

  2. NoCalMetFan September 13, 2008 3:49 pm

    But as everyone knows, if he hadn’t left, no David Wright!

  3. NoCalMetFan September 13, 2008 3:52 pm

    JD, you should think about a streaming chat like Hotfoot does. Would be nice to see a room moderated by someone not 16 years old.

  4. John Delcos September 13, 2008 3:55 pm

    I have thought about that. It’s a matter of downloading some software. I hope to get it up and running in the next few days.-JD

  5. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 3:55 pm

    Bad bad bad; Phils on Fox where I am and so I have to listen to audio feed.

  6. JohnM September 13, 2008 4:01 pm

    Woah! Why is Howie doing the game? Not that I’m complaining!

  7. Tiffany September 13, 2008 4:04 pm

    It’s not the schools they’re sensitive about; it’s Hampton’s lame-o excuse about them. He would have done much better to simply state the truth and say he was uncomfortable in NY, rather than to make up some bullshit line about there being better schools in Colorado.

  8. John Delcos September 13, 2008 4:13 pm

    Tiffany: That would be speaking the truth, and we know many players are incapable of that.-JD

  9. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 4:13 pm

    Phils up 2-0 against the dying Brewers.

  10. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 4:14 pm

    I’d boo Hampton for a weak outing in Game 2 of the 2000 World Series and for not plunking a Yankee after Roger Clemens threw a bat shard at Mike Piazza in that game which will live in infamy.

  11. John Delcos September 13, 2008 4:17 pm

    Gil. That was weak. Somebody needed to go down.-JD

  12. Steve September 13, 2008 4:21 pm

    JD do you still go to the games or are you watching on a tv like the rest of us. I know you said you have a lifetime membership for the baseball writers of america.
    just wondering if you still go to the games

  13. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 4:22 pm

    I second that Gil. Phils up 3-0 still only one out in first. Between the Brewers choking and the hurricane messing up the Stros pitching staff, it looks like Mets and Phils both in playoffs and we could very well be playing Joe Torre in the first round. Won’t Hankee the Yankee love that!!!

  14. John Delcos September 13, 2008 4:26 pm

    Steve: I am at Shea this afternoon. In the press box. My seat isn’t as good as it used to be, but I’m here. Also worked the clubhouse as usual.-JD

  15. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 4:27 pm

    Howie Rose on Fox just confirmed what Harry, JD and I believe is the reason why Hampton is so depised in Queens – that not only did Hampton not retaliate, but the next year after he pulled his bank heist in Colorado, he had the nerve to say that Piazza should’ve charged Clemens that night.

  16. tomg September 13, 2008 4:29 pm

    Santana is all o0ver the place. It looks like he doesn’t have his control today. I don’t think the mets can afford Santana pitching only 5 innings or the bull pen is going to get over exposed like last year and we all know what happened. The Mets offense needs to produce big time.

  17. tomg September 13, 2008 4:30 pm

    Hampton is a mutt!!!

  18. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 4:36 pm

    If Annie’s here, how do you listen to this Hagin guy every night? He just drones on.

  19. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 5:12 pm

    Would you all sacrifice here, w/Tatis?
    I would.

  20. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 5:14 pm

    no, they walk easley then slow poke and the pitcher are up.

  21. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:14 pm

    I feel comfortable with Easley in this situation.-JD

  22. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:15 pm

    What did I say?-JD

  23. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 5:16 pm

    No. 8 hitter up, bases loaded, none out.
    Why not try a squeeze?

  24. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 5:24 pm

    So umm, when are we gonna see Al Reyes or Robby Parnell?

  25. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:24 pm

    JD- johan seems to struggle early in games and get into “a nice little groove”.. how many innings do you see in him today..71 pitches already in the fifth

  26. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:36 pm

    Jim: I’m guessing he’ll get into the eighth.-JD

  27. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:38 pm

    Phillies lead, 5-2, in the fifth.-JD

  28. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:40 pm

    I hope so John… Do you think Jerry will stretch him out like he did against Philly.. instead of pulling him at 105 110 pitches.. let him get to about 120? 125

  29. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:45 pm

    Jim: I don’t see Jerry stretching him out. I believe he’ll go to the pen and preserve pitches. Of course, a few runs would make it a lot easier.-JD

  30. Steve September 13, 2008 5:48 pm

    JD if the season ended today who would be your nl mvp pick

  31. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:50 pm

    this is a key situation i feel.. being able to tack on runs is a big part of keeping pressure off that bullpen etc. tack some more on damion!

  32. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:52 pm

    any chances of pinch hitting here for johan

  33. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:53 pm

    You could pinch-hit for Santana, but I’d let him hit and keep him in the game.-JD

  34. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:54 pm

    broken bat base hit for johan…thats my prediction

  35. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 5:54 pm

    Easley’s at-bat is a perfect example of why trying a squeeze every now and then — especially in THAT situation, is a good idea. Easley’s a good bunter and Beltran is a fast runner at 3rd. I never understood Willie’s — and now Jerry’s — resistance to use it. It’s hard to defend and when executed, almost always produces a run.

  36. Jeff H. September 13, 2008 5:55 pm

    John, do you have the backing to go on the road with the team?

  37. BH September 13, 2008 5:55 pm

    Schneider and Easley….come on, just terrible results with no outs and bases loaded…that cannot happen. I would really like to see more of Reyes at second, I know Easley has had his moments, but I don’t like him playing this much.

  38. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 5:56 pm

    not adding runs there is how you lose tight games like this… give us a strong 7th johan

  39. Jeff H. September 13, 2008 5:58 pm

    Gil, good idea but not with the bases loaded–a weak bunt and you can just flip to the catcher or the catcher can touch home for the force.

  40. John Delcos September 13, 2008 5:59 pm

    FYI: I don’t know how many of you got a chance to listen to the podcast I had with Joe. We are scheduling another for Monday and would like to develop a schedule. Our thinking now is in the early evening acting like a pregame show.-JD

  41. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:00 pm

    Jeff H.: Not yet. If you’re in advertising and can help draw sponsors let me know.-JD

  42. Jeff H. September 13, 2008 6:01 pm

    John, the podcast was informative but a little long. An late afternoon pre-game show, before WFAN at 6:30, with lineups and pre-game news and notes would be very worthwhile.

  43. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:02 pm

    Jeff H.: Thanks. Yes, we agree it was too long. I’m thinking 15 minutes at the most and to make it tight.-JD

  44. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:04 pm

    Santana is at 107 pitches. They’ll let him go for the shutout.-JD

  45. Tiffany September 13, 2008 6:04 pm

    I think you should go after Stiletto’s and Lace. Some deep pockets there.

  46. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:07 pm

    really JD? you think he comes out for the 8th?

  47. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:07 pm

    Tiffany: My old paper sunk to that and we lost several female readers and parents wouldn’t let their kids on. Not sure I want to go that route.-JD

  48. Jeff H. September 13, 2008 6:08 pm

    John, any update on who will pitch Wednesday’s game? Figueroa is logical but the Nationals have done well against him (”softball girls”).

  49. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:09 pm

    Jim: I would let him. And, if he breezes through that. I’d let him go for the shutout. Why not? He’s a big boy.-JD

  50. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:12 pm

    What was Beltran swinging at there?-JD

  51. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:13 pm

    Santana to start the eighth-JD

  52. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:14 pm

    carlos often seems to extend his strike zone..i like him being aggressive be has been (still is) very susceptible to a low breaking ball or curve ball (ie adam wainwright :( ) come on johan…JD i think johan pitches the 8th if no trouble but jerry goes with ayala in 9

  53. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:14 pm

    Jeff H: The options are Figueroa, Niese, Knight and Parnell.-JD

  54. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:15 pm

    Jerry on the top step of the dugout.-JD

  55. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:18 pm

    Gotta pull him now. Here’s Jerry.-JD

  56. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:19 pm

    wow…not a good start of this inning. the mets need this one with philly already up big. not good

  57. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:20 pm

    scho instead of feliciano?

  58. BH September 13, 2008 6:21 pm

    For all of Jerry’s good moves I have to say that his track record of making a call to stretch out a starter has been about as bad as you can get.

  59. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 6:21 pm

    Time to pass the Maalox.

  60. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:26 pm

    wow

  61. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 6:28 pm

    Seven times.
    That’s seven damn times the bullpen has blown a game for Santana when he stood to be the winning pitcher.

  62. Tiffany September 13, 2008 6:28 pm

    To be fair, Gil, those were Johan’s runners who scored.

  63. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 6:30 pm

    Its real simple BH. Your starters are much better than your relievers. Therefore, you have to stretch your starters as much as possible.

  64. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:30 pm

    They might have been Santana’s runners, but the job of the bullpen is to keep them from scoring.-JD

  65. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:31 pm

    Harry: Agreed.The first two hits off Santana were hit hard. He had lost it. If they kept him in any longer this still might have happened.-JD

  66. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 6:34 pm

    On the radio its hard to tell anything. Hagen keeps putting me to sleep!

  67. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 6:39 pm

    hagin is not very good

  68. tomg September 13, 2008 6:42 pm

    Easley has killed the Mets today!!!!!!

  69. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 6:43 pm

    So Danny Boy Murphy is not platooned with Tatis. Irish eyes are not smiling upon you Jerry Manuel.

  70. NoCalMetFan September 13, 2008 6:47 pm

    Question, anyone think Beltran should have slid and taken out McCann on the Easley DP? Seems like he put no effort into breaking it up.

    BAd game all around.

  71. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:50 pm

    Castillo pinch-hitting for the Mets. I don’t know about you, but I feel better now.-JD

  72. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:53 pm

    Phillies 7, Milwaukee 3, in the ninth in Philly,-JD

  73. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:56 pm

    Reyes 0-for-4 today. Strikeout and three balls hit in the air. Not a good day.-JD

  74. John Delcos September 13, 2008 6:58 pm

    I’ll be here between games if you have any questions.-JD

  75. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 7:00 pm

    Hmm, well… that sucked. Besides the fact they lost, the game was boring as hell too.

  76. John Delcos September 13, 2008 7:02 pm

    Benny: It usually is boring when a team doesn’t hit. Phillies win. The Mets lead now by two games.-JD

  77. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 7:04 pm

    JD- this team has been very resilient but i think this loss was very damaging… seemed like the team was in cruise control and just absolutely let one get away.. phils are going to be only 2 bakc going into tonight…and niese going. i dunno, gotta make a Met fan nervous

  78. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 7:06 pm

    game seemed to be on cruise the whole way… was way too similar to last yr. hard to get those memories out of your head, but thi team has shown heart. big game tonight

  79. John Delcos September 13, 2008 7:08 pm

    Jim: I asked the question prior to the series on whether the Braves were still relevant. Looks like they are. The Braves beat the Mets’ best in the first game. In the second game they get Jon Niese.-JD

  80. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 7:10 pm

    im only 21 so the mets have and always will be revelant to me.. ive seen way too many games just like that where the braves just find a way to beat the mets. 2.5 and 1.5 is a big difference, so hopefully niese shows something

  81. John Delcos September 13, 2008 7:10 pm

    Santana has given up three or fewer runs in 25 starts this season. The Mets have lost eight of those games, with Santana taking the loss four times.-JD

  82. NoCalMetFan September 13, 2008 7:17 pm

    The Mets have the best broadcasters in baseball. How can SNY have such a putrid bunch of personalities? Keep Cotter and get rid of the rest of these clowns. All they do is regurgitate everything posted on various blogs.

    And btw, who at SNY do guys like Ted Berg and Cerrone have pictures of in compromising situations that get them air time? Amazing how extra cable channels opens up air time for amateurs who know basically nothing.

  83. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 7:29 pm

    What a pisser.

  84. tomg September 13, 2008 7:29 pm

    Santana’s game was the game to win and the Mets core players came up empty. Reyes, Wright,Beltran and Delgado. Easley and Schneider were in the position to blow the game open and they came up flat. I would be surprised if the Mets won this game.

  85. John Delcos September 13, 2008 7:33 pm

    Gil: Pure Shakespeare.-JD

  86. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 7:33 pm

    Speaking of announcing, I”m watching the Nats vs Marlins game right now its the MASN feed and there is absolutely NO announcing going on. I’m not sure if its a technical difficulty or what but it sounds wierd yet cool.

    Bah, I don’t think the Braves are relevant, big deal, they won one game… I wasn’t aware the Mets weren’t allowed to lose a game. I don’t even think I hate them anymore.

  87. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 7:35 pm

    As soon as I hit submit, the Nats announcers open thier mouth. So much for that.

  88. John Delcos September 13, 2008 7:35 pm

    SECOND GAME METS LINEUP

    SS Jose Reyes
    RF Ryan Church
    3B David Wright
    CF Carlos Beltran
    1B Carlos Delgado
    LF Fernando Tatis
    2B Luis Castillo
    C Robinson Cancel
    LH Jon Niese

  89. Kevin September 13, 2008 7:43 pm

    Anyone else use MLB.tv and get no option to watch this game?

  90. Jeff H. September 13, 2008 7:44 pm

    Kevin–that’s right. It says that it should be on.

  91. Kevin September 13, 2008 7:47 pm

    I’m getting no option to choose it… I know its on SNY

  92. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 7:49 pm

    yup,, they have a screw up…..

  93. Steve September 13, 2008 7:50 pm

    yea im not gettin it on mlb.tv and its getting blacked out on my extra innings package…..lucky me

  94. Kevin September 13, 2008 8:01 pm

    I’m buying a slingbox next year and hooking it up to my dad’s tv, broadcast SNY straight to my comp. This is just dumb.

  95. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 8:01 pm

    i hope niese continues to pitch strikes. big start for the mets
    tack runs on fellas…. hows niese stuff look in person JD

  96. Tiffany September 13, 2008 8:02 pm

    Does Easley make that play on Sammons?

  97. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:07 pm

    To Jim: Looks pretty good so far, but it has only been two innings.-JD.

  98. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:08 pm

    Tiffany: I’m thinking he might.-JD

  99. Tiffany September 13, 2008 8:09 pm

    I’ll bet you a plate of Eat n’ Park cookies that it was a run-scoring single with Easley out there.

  100. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 8:09 pm

    On a side note, the lady in those Hillside Honda commercials? Super hot.

  101. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:12 pm

    Tiffany, I don’t know. Benny, I haven’t seen the commercial, but I trust your judgment. The only thing I have to say right now is GO BUCKEYES.-JD

  102. Tiffany September 13, 2008 8:15 pm

    Hotter than Giuseppe Franco?

  103. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:16 pm

    Tiffany: Who isn’t?-JD

  104. Tiffany September 13, 2008 8:16 pm

    I’m going to say Marty Noble.

  105. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:17 pm

    OK, I give you that one.-JD

  106. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 8:21 pm

    I have no mlb.tv feed.
    Listening to WFAN on mlb.com because I absolutely refuse to listen to the Atlanta announcers here in Georgia.
    If anyone wants to know how big college football is here in the South, this Braves game isn’t being carried on TV, as both SportSouth and Peachtree TV already were contractually obligated to college football coverage.

  107. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:22 pm

    That might have been Delgado’s worst at-bat in a week.-JD

  108. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 8:23 pm

    JD and everyone else: My “what a pisser” post earlier, about the result of Game 1 is a reference to a line uttered in what classic slapstick big screen comedy?

  109. Tiffany September 13, 2008 8:24 pm

    When I think classic big-screen slapstick, I think Tom Cruise in Cocktail.

  110. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:24 pm

    Airplane, of course.-JD

  111. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:25 pm

    Word is, pitchers learn to cover first base on that play the first day of spring training.-JD

  112. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 8:27 pm

    Tiffany: “Cocktail?
    Surely, you can’t be serious.

  113. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:33 pm

    Don’t call me Shirley,-JD

  114. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:35 pm

    What a tremendous pitch.-JD

  115. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 8:35 pm

    Niese is nice. I like what I’m seeing so far. His fastball has nice movement. His curveball is sick. If he can learn to throw more strikes he can be a dependable guy. Best part he is 21 years old, so he has plenty of time. Awesome!

  116. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:39 pm

    I know it is too soon to be making projections for him, but several good outings should give him a leg up for the fifth starter job next spring,-JD

  117. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 8:41 pm

    Is it just me, or does the name Buddy Carlyle sound like a jabroni wrestler from the 1980s World Wrestling Federation who always “lost”?

  118. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 8:42 pm

    The mlb feed is on finally… Hagen, I hope I never have to listen to you again. No wonder Met fans like Cohen!!!!!

  119. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:45 pm

    Gil: I bet he “hails from Buffalo, New York.”-JD

  120. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 8:45 pm

    Weighing in at 210 pounds from Omaha, Nebraska, Buddy Carlyle!

    Fans: Indifference

    Indifference is the true sign of being a jabroni.

  121. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 8:47 pm

    You should be jumping up and down as those Buckeyes take a commanding 3-0 lead!

  122. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:49 pm

    Oh boy! I can hardly contain myself. The only thing that would be better would be to get on the Kiss Cam.-JD

  123. Harry Chiti September 13, 2008 8:54 pm

    Wasn’t that you…….? lead is gone 3-7…

  124. John Delcos September 13, 2008 8:55 pm

    Harry: I’m crushed now.-JD

  125. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 9:14 pm

    niese strong thru 6…. love to get a couple more for him
    JD- games not on mlbtv for me… hows niese curve? is it as good as advertised

  126. John Delcos September 13, 2008 9:15 pm

    Jim: Oh yes … sweet. Drops off the table. A few more would be nice considering what happened in the first game.-JD

  127. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 9:21 pm

    im not sure what it looks like watching phillies games but whenever i see the mets play the nats or braves (last yr marlins), the opposing mnager seems to really want to steal a game from the mets. acta pulling starter after 3 this week, cox tonight after 2!

  128. benny blanco from da bronx September 13, 2008 9:27 pm

    Observation time!
    Niese threw that last fastball 89 mph, he started the game throwing 94 mph consistantly. I think its fair to say the kid is a bit tired.

  129. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 9:29 pm

    i think 94 is even a little high for him…adrenaline im sure
    89 with that curve… very nice

  130. John Delcos September 13, 2008 9:39 pm

    Pitch 100, a beautiful curve.-JD

  131. John Delcos September 13, 2008 9:39 pm

    Nice play by Castillo.-JD

  132. John Delcos September 13, 2008 9:51 pm

    Pinch-hitting for Niese. He was over 100. They weren’t going to let him come out for the ninth.-JD

  133. John Delcos September 13, 2008 9:55 pm

    Ayala in for the Mets.-JD

  134. Jim (Bmore) September 13, 2008 10:00 pm

    JD- different team this yr… a lot of heart after tough losses all yr

  135. Gil in Savannah, Ga. September 13, 2008 10:01 pm

    Why is Ayala even pitching w/ a 5-run lead?
    We need him rested.

  136. Joe Plaza September 16, 2008 8:55 pm

    Hello my name is Joe I have 9 years old I live in Moca Puerto Rico wath happend to the Mets

  137. Joe Plaza September 16, 2008 9:00 pm

    Let’s Go Mets!!!!!!!
    My Favorite player is the puertorican CARLOS BELTRAN#15CENTER FIELDER Let’s Go Beltran!!!!!!

  138. Joe Plaza September 16, 2008 9:05 pm

    This is the Mets Staring Lineup
    JOSE REYES
    RYAN CHURCH
    DAVID WRIGHT
    CARLOS BELTRAN
    CARLOS DELGADO
    FERNANDO TATIS
    ARGENIS REYES
    BRIAN SCHNEIDER
    AND
    THE PITCHING ROTATION
    JOHAN SANTANA
    OLIVER PEREZ
    JON NIESE
    PEDRO MARTINEZ
    AND
    MIKE PELFREY

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